[TheForge] Missing message?

[debmiller at fuse.net]

Most of the ones i have seen in recent years have been pushed off into a corner and buried in junk. Many are scrapped. We use one in our Principles of Machining class at UC College of Applied Science, but that's only because most of our machine tools still have DOD tags from WWII and were donated by Cincinnati Milling Machine, later called Cincinnati Milaron. Now mostly defunct!!!

Ray Miller
Cincinnati
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> From: "David E. Smucker" <davesmucker at hotmail.com>
> Date: 2004/10/27 Wed PM 03:52:45 EDT
> To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Missing message?
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> Hey Ray,  I can still run a shaper.  You know of any small ones for sale?  I 
> could use one in my new shop.
> 
> Shaper and Planners are great tools for cast iron -- because they get below 
> the sand cast surface in a single cut.  They use a low cost tool and produce 
> very good surfaces -- they are just slow.  No one likes single point tools 
> much anymore because they are slow, and with high labor costs time is more 
> expensive that the high horsepower and cost of carbide milling cutters.
> 
> In 1992 I saw a lot of shapers and planners still in use in Russia for 
> machining of Titanium.  They used them because the metal work hardens so 
> much that the single point tool just plan works better.  Still machining a 

> big slab of Titanium was a labor of love.  The Russians had so much Titanium 
> that they made shovels for the army out of it.  I even brought some of them 
> home. (gifts from the Russians)
> 
> Dave Smucker
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <debmiller at fuse.net>
> To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Missing message?
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> 
> > Arnar,
> > THANK YOU for sharing these great pictures. It looks like Anyang has a 
> > clean and productive facility. I was very surprised to see so many shapers 
> > being used. I don't think I know a machinist today who can still run a 
> > shaper, in the US.
> >
> > Ray Miller
> > Cincinnati
> >>
> >> From: "Arnar Haugedal" <arnar.haugedal at broadpark.no>
> >> Date: 2004/10/27 Wed AM 04:18:01 EDT
> >> To: <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> >> Subject: [TheForge] Missing message?
> >>
> >> Why does not this message apear on the message board?
> >>
> >>
> >> I  have just returned from China, visiting the Anyang Forging Press in 
> >> Anyang.   I  got a very nice reception and met all the people there. 
> >> Got a good impresion of the production.   Also I  have inported several 
> >> Anyang hammers to Scandinavia.    You can look at the pictures from my 
> >> trip on the link  http://foto.vg.no/fotoalbum.php?aid=504749
> >>
> >> Arnar Haugedal
> >> (Norway)
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >> Arnar  Haugedal,  Sivilarkitekt   MNAL
> >> Tlf.: +47 73 52 20 07  -  +47 996 35 157
> >>  http://www.firmanett.no/arnar/
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