[TheForge] ABANA Conference work

[Dave Mudge]

Terry you should direct your questions here:
Insurance Committee
This committee is responsible for obtaining the best coverage for the 
organization and monitoring the insurance needs of ABANA.
Chairman: Clare Yellin
Members: Bob Jacoby, ABANA Executive Board
Clare Yellin (2004)
2nd Vice-President
721 Moore Ave
Bryn Mawr, PA 19010
H/W: (610) 527-2334
FAX: (610) 527-2412
clareyellin at abana.org 

Do you really think that when putting on a 3/4 million dollar event
that we would forget about insurance? or written contracts?
dave m

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "terry l. ridder" <terrylr at blauedonau.com>
To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] ABANA Conference work


> hello;
> 
> i have numerous questions concerning these 'comped' positions.
> 
> 0. is the person working the 'comped' position considered an employee
> of abana (w2) or an individual contractor ( 1099 )? if not an employee
> of abana are they considered an employee of the abana conference or an
> individual contractor?
> 
> 1. is the person working the 'comped' position covered by abana's
> workman's compensation insurance carrier or the abana conference's
> workman's compensation insurance carrier? basically, who covers the
> 'comped' person's medical bills in the event that injuries are sustained
> while performing 'comped' duties?
> 
> 2. is this a verbal contract or a written contract?
> 
> depending on the answers to the above questions working an abana
> conference in a 'comped' position may actually be a really bad idea for
> the 'comped' person. accidents do happen and the financial impact of
> such such injuries can and do have wide ranging effects. personal
> finances can and will be thrown into turmoil and assets will dwindle
> to next to nothing.
> 
> so my personal suggestion to anyone considering working a 'comped'
> position at any conference put on by any organization is to consider the
> legal and financial ramification to doing so. do not let personal
> desires/wants/needs cloud your judgement and in doing so place your
> family and you at considerable risk. finally, get everything in writing
> do not rely on a verbal contract. ask for a copy of the workman's
> compensation insurance policy. if there is no workman's compensation
> insurance policy my personal advice would be to run run away fast.
> 
> On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, Will Hightower wrote:
> 
> will>
> will> A couple points on Chucks questions on comped positions at
> will> conferences:
> will> 
> will> I have worked ABANA conference sense 1984 (someday I may see one).
> will> It is very hard work.  This is no easy ride holiday.
> will> 
> will> You get to see very little of the conference, so why should you
> will> pay?  You pay your own transportation, miss half the "free" meals,
> will> are dirty for a week, and get yelled at a lot.  All you get is a
> will> T shirt and a handshake.
> will> 
> will> The goal of this program is/has been to build a core of workers
> will> so each conference does not have to reinvent the wheel.  If you
> will> are into blisters, bone tired, and public service contact the
> will> conference chair.  It is his/her call.  Like the Marines, they
> will> are always need replacements for the ones that fell by the way.
> will> 
> will> Will Hightower
> will> ABANA Board
> will> 
> 
> -- 
> terry l. ridder ><>
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