[TheForge] Way OT. Stem cell cures. RANT

[Schade]

I have had it up to here (WAY HIGH) with all the political crap
we are being bombarded with everywhere. It would be nice if
we could keep our political opinions to ourselves and OFF
theforge. No one is going to change my mind at this point and
I'm sure no one is going to change yours. Why pollute theforge?

Bob
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On Oct 1, 2004, at 7:19 PM, Darrell wrote:

> The "Planned Parent Hood" organization is an oxymoron. They are NOT 
> about
> planning parenthood. The founder started it with the stated purpose of
> eliminating the lower class of people. Their total focus is on 
> abortion.
> They totally support partial birth abortion so as to be able to 
> harvest both
> fetal stem cells and placental blood.
> I support a woman's right to choose. IF she chooses to be sexually 
> active
> she has already made her choice.
> End rant.
> Darrell
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Linn" <bamablacksmith at comcast.net>
> To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 4:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Way OT. Stem cell cures. (was: Doug Henderson )
>
>
>>
>> Whoa....  lets be absolutely clear...there is NO ban on stem cell
> research...
>>
>> You can research to your hearts content as long as you dont use 
>> federal
>> money to do it.
>>
>> Same with your "family planning"  Do all of it you want, just keep tax
>> dollars out.
>>
>> I just wish they would expand that to the FEDERAL Dept of Education 
>> and
>> the National Endowment for the Arts among others...
>>
>> I've read the US constitution several times and I cant find anything 
>> about
>> any of these topics in there...
>>
>> just my opinion...
>>
>> mike
>>
>> At 07:27 AM 10/1/2004, you wrote:
>>> Yes, that is correct.  But this ban applies to ALL federal funding of
>>> stem cell research.
>>>
>>> The government has made it very clear that it will take such bans to
>>> the nth degree.  For example, our archconservative administration
>>> opposes family planning to such a degree that we won't support 
>>> efforts
>>> to control population growth, and the related problems of infant
>>> mortality, female pregnancy-related mortality, overpopulation,
>>> malnutrition, inadequate education, etc.
>>>
>>> Hence, and INSTITUTION that partakes in stem cell research can well
>>> expect to be cut off from all federal funding.  Period. Any 
>>> institution,
>>> like NIH, that is a creature of government cannot even consider such
>>> funding.
>>>
>>> More information can be found at http://www.plannedparenthood.org/, 
>>> for
>>> those interested.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>> NJ
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> northpt at blarg.net 9/30/2004 5:08:31 PM >>>
>>> On 30 Sep 2004 at 9:18, Bruce Freeman wrote:
>>>
>>> snip.....
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, human stem cell lines come from aborted fetuses.  You
>>>> know the rest of the story.  The arch conservatives in office banned
>>>> stem cell research, and that was the end of the story.
>>>>
>>>> This is one of several reasons I'll be voting for Kerry this year.
>>>>
>>>> Bruce
>>>> NJ
>>>>
>>>
>>>         The above is incorrect. There is no ban stem cell research. 
>>> Only
>>> on federal
>>> funding of research beyound the existing approved lines.
>>>
>>>         From http://slate.msn.com/id/2104983/
>>>
>>>         ....." But no such ban exists. Embryonic stem-cell research 
>>> is
>>> unrestricted in
>>> the private sector. State and local governments can fund it as they
>>> wish. The federal
>>> government spent nearly $200 million on adult stem-cell research last
>>> year and
>>> nearly $25 million on research involving the roughly 20 approved
>>> embryonic lines. As
>>> today's Washington Post observes, what Bush actually did was "to 
>>> allow,
>>> for the first
>>> time, the use of federal funds" for embryonic stem-cell research."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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