hello; On Sun, 28 Nov 2004, Dave Mudge wrote: dave_m> dave_m> Well Dan, I guess that old adage applies here; dave_m> "damned if you do, damned if you don't." dave_m> <snip> dave_m> dave_m> dave mudge dave_m> sounds like a variation of: "no good deed shall be allowed to go unpunished". -- terry l. ridder ><>