[TheForge] Rust inhibitor

[Chris Kilpatrick]

I wonder if the carbon from the horn acted to trap free oxygen and combine with it, making the steel rust less . . . hmmm

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael H. Murphy" <blacksmith at comcast.net>
To: "'Sponsored by ABANA'" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: RE: [TheForge] Rust inhibitor
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 19:37:44 -0500

> 
> I've run into that process in a number of historical texts.  Also other
> types of horn, as well as leather, charcoal, and other organic materials.
> Some were more successful than others.  I also heard something about using
> olive oil to draw the temper after quenching.  I'm not sure on this, but I
> think it had something to do with the boiling point of olive oil being a
> good tempering temperature.
> 
> Murf
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:theforge-
> > bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Mudge
> > Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 5:20 PM
> > To: 'Sponsored by ABANA'
> > Subject: RE: [TheForge] Rust inhibitor
> > 
> > In the book, "On Divers Arts" the 12 century author, scholar and all
> > around
> > Renaissance Man, Theophilus describes wrapping up pieces of iron along
> > with
> > shavings of cow horn or hooves and cooking it in a forge. I think that
> > what
> > happens is the carbon from the cow stuff gets migrated into the iron to
> > form
> > some crude steel or at least case hardened iron. I don't have time to look
> > it up now.
> > 
> > Theophilus On Divers Arts
> > translated from Latin by
> > John Hawthorne & Cyril Stanley Smith
> > a Dover Publication
> > isbn # 0-486-23784-2
> > 
> > dave mudge
> > dave at magichammer.net
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> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> > [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kevin Donaho e
> > Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 7:36 AM
> > To: Sponsored by ABANA
> > Subject: RE: [TheForge] Rust inhibitor
> > 
> > 
> > That could go a long way to explain development of cologne and perfume,
> > BO
> > is one thing, but smoldering cow horn, WHEW!
> > 
> > Kevin (smells like money to me, but my wife doesn't appreciate it) Donahoe
> > 
> >     ------Original Message-----
> >     -From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> >     -[mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Bill Alleman
> >     -Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 10:42 PM
> >     -To: TheForge
> >     -Subject: [TheForge] Rust inhibitor
> >     -
> >     -
> >     -So I'm watching a show on the Science Channel on recreating the oak
> >     -cranes likely used to lift the stones for Gothic cathedrals, and a
> >     -French blacksmith and medieval machinery expert claimed that
> >     -he can seal
> >     -his forgings from rust by rubbing them with a cow horn. He rubbed
> >     -relatively lightly on the still-hot iron. The cow was not still
> >     -attached. Has anybody tried this one?
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