[TheForge] Advances class curriculum

[Aaron Silver]

Frosty-

Your story reminds me of my BS teacher William Senseney. He had 3 main 
classes he would run where the students learned the basic processes. During 
one he brought in 2 pairs of pipe tongs. He told us one was done 20 years 
ago (or so) and was his "journeyman" piece. In looking at the two at first 
I didn't see any real difference. Then I took a closer look and found that 
the real difference between his "journeyman" piece and his "master" piece 
was all in the fine details. How much extra time did he file this point, or 
the little groove that the handle had there.

Aaron

At 02:39 PM 11/4/2004, you wrote:
>A few years ago I put a curriculum together for basic and advanced smithing
>and ran into a little problem. With one on one instruction both the students
>I've had since writing the curriculum went through it in about 30 hrs. With
>the speed they absorbed the basics I found myself showing them the
>"advanced" stuff.
>
>So much for my "advanced" curriculum. <sigh>
>
>What I ended up doing for "advanced" projects was move them into precision.
>This doesn't only mean getting tight tolerances it means making multiple
>pieces to close specs.
>
>Other things that are pretty advanced include types of welds: butt, "T",
>etc. Tool making, heat treating and such beyond the cold chisel would be
>advanced. A set of matched wood chisels for instance would incorporate heat
>treating and precision multiple pieces.
>
>Forging specialty metals, brass, bronze, SS, etc. would be good advanced
>techniques.
>
>Frosty
>------------------------
>If it ain't forged
>it ain't real.
>Wrought iron is.
>The FrostWorks
>
>Meadow Lakes, AK.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bob Ehrenberger" <eforge at marktwain.net>
>To: "theforge" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 6:19 PM
>Subject: [TheForge] Advances class curriculum
>
>
> > I've been put on the commitiee to put together a curriculum for an
>advanced
> > blacksmith class.
> >
> > In our beginner's class we teach basic techinques and forging dynamics
>which
> > include: drawing to a piont, making a hook, making a leaf, making a
>scroll,
> > splitting and making a heart, punching a hole, and various twists.
> >
> > The beginner's class is more or less technique oriented and not project
> > oriented.
> >
> > We were thinking that for the advanced class we would work on projects
>that
> > incorporate new techniques or require the making of special tools.
> >
> > So far we are thinking of making tongs, and doing something that requires
> > mortis and tennon joints. It has also been suggested that we do something
> > that uses half lap joints.
> >
> > What do you guys think?  We are looking for projects that will challenge
> > someone that knows the basics but needs to have his skills pushed to a new
> > level.
> >
> > Robert Ehrenberger
> > Shelbyville, Mo.
> >
> >
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