[TheForge] Blacksmithing and ABANA

[gblacksmith]

As this unfortunate situation does not seem to be getting resolved, perhaps
the entire matter should be:

1. Investigated by a neutral third party versed in internal affairs
investigations.  This should be done by a professional investigative
organization, at ABANA's expense

2. A report of investigative findings should be prepared and made available
to all ABANA members

3. Unresolved differences between parties -should be submitted for binding
arbitration under the rules of the American Arbitration Association

4. Evidence of criminal activity should be reported to the cognizant
authority

5.  The membership, as stakeholders, must INSIST that this self-destructive
series of exchanges/events be brought to a halt and DEMAND the cooperation
of the BOD toward that end.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry and Pat Brown" <lp.brown at verizon.net>
To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 2:14 AM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Blacksmithing and ABANA


> This sounds like there was a problem between Claire Yellin and George many
> years ago. I do not know what their relationship was while George worked
at
> the shop or at the time of the shop closing but it has gone down hill
> since. Relationships change and the memory of events gets skewed by all
> involved, look at the divorce rate and associated legal battles.
>
> Unfortunately instead of the problem being straightened out with the help
> of others, people have gotten drawn in on each side and it is turning into
> a schoolyard war. Once the sides are drawn many other side deals arise as
a
> result of the cliques which infuriate the problem, yet are not the source
> problem and therefore need to be dealt with seperately.
>
> The base problem needs to be straightened out and it has nothing to do
with
> ABANA. Blacksmiths tend to be head strong people and this makes this hard.
> If voting these people out is the only option then so be it.
> I will continue my membership and  I will keep this issue in mind while
voting.
>
> Personally I feel that they are at the point of needing a third party to
> help straighten this out and for the good of the organization I hope this
> can be ended soon and without reputation bloodshed.
>
> Larry Brown
> NJBA
> ABANA
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 09:45 PM 5/11/2004 -0400, you wrote:
> >
> >    I have argued for and against George in the past, he has always been
a
> > bit too argumentative for me. He sometimes has come off a bit angry.
This
> > is however different, George has passed on plenty of real quotes and
> > proof here through Mindy. If this is all a lie then he is set up for a
> > huge lawsuit so I doubt that this is fabricated. Especially since I
> > participated in some of the mentioned theForge discussions. I love ABANA
> > I will not drop my membership, but be warned those individuals mentioned
> > in this mess will not get my my votes this time around..... yep like the
> > quote from the emails lets "show em the votes" ABANA members. I hope
that
> > this spreads as I do not like this kind of garbage, this is our
> > organisation too, you know alll of us non artist types that just love
> > doing this stuff. The ones that attend and run local classes and talk to
> > all of our friends about "smithing" till they try it too?
> >
> >    By the way if the BOD is monitoring theForge I am a  director,
> > treasurer, secretary and active member of the blacksmithing community. I
> > do not do good work in the forge but I do good works for forging, I am
> > angry that this was allowed to go on this long. This member feels it is
> > time to clean house! If you have anything to say you had better report
to
> > your membership... you owe us a good damned explanation here...forwith!
> >
> >And I am renewing so you won't get off that easy.
> >
> >
> >                 Edward (Ted) Jones
> >
> >                 ABANA, CBG, NEB
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