At 07:13 PM 3/27/04 -0500, you wrote: >Dave, I've seen those kick presses used to seat rivets on the old brake >shoes before adhesives came along that would do the job. > >Ralph So I've learned by looking around the net. They were originally made for snap fasteners and such. Were later bought out and moved into the automotive industry. There must be something I can use it for. Dave