[TheForge] OT propane forge burner book - tarriffs.

Fri Mar 5 17:24:01 2004

NAFTA is made for big corporations.  Shipping either way you have to way
brokerage.  Books can be sent by mail which saves brokerage fees however the
post office charges $10 to collect the sales tax.  So by the time I pay for the
shipping which seems to be higher for cross border, $10 for tax collection, the
tax,  and finally the exchange rate, a book is almost double the price.  If I
were buying the book in Canada I would have to pay the tax anyways but I really
resent having to pay the post office a collecting fee above and beyond the tax.
The difference in value between the US dollar and the Canadian dollar has
narrowed considerably in the last year.

John

Ralph Sproul wrote:

> John,  What the hell happened with Clinton's beloved NAFTA
> program..........I thought that was supposed to cut tarriffs between Canada
> and Mexico?
>
>         That double the price does not sound like what the North American
> Free Trade Agreement is supposed to stand for?  .............or is this
> Canada's way of taxing imports to raise revenue for all the subsidized
> programs they have?
>
> Ralph
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Newman" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 10:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] propane forge burner book
>
> > If I make it to the conference I will probably pick up the book as well,
> but
> > getting one shipped across the border almost doubles the price when buying
> one
> > book.
> >
> > Ralph Sproul wrote:
> >
> > >         John, Thanks for asking that question.  I'm interested in the
> answer
> > > as well.   :-)
> > >
> > >         From the reading I've done it appears a Mig tip would greatly
> > > influence the burner performance, but this can be double edged sword in
> this
> > > design.
> > >         1) yes you may get more heat, and increased velocity - but
> > >         2) do you really want to create cold spots on the material from
> > > unburned fuels if you increase the velocity of the gasses and it
> cascades
> > > down to the floor creating cold spots?         This was part of my trial
> and
> > > error of making this unit work right, by eliminating the straight
> burners
> > > and getting it to idle better, stopping the chimney effect, and it also
> > > slowed the velocity of the burners when I went to the "Trap" style
> burners
> > > to solve that problem (of too much velocity and the resulting cold spots
> and
> > > more scale).  It made the total burn occur 1" off the floor of the
> forge.
> > > Making the flame longer might get you back to the original problem.
> > >
> > >         I've been wanting to test out this theory on the burners/forges
> I
> > > have here in the shop, but my work load has been nuts lately.  Let me
> know
> > > how you make out.......if I don't get to it first.
> > >         The sidearm burners are far superior in my estimation as the
> ceiling
> > > furnace in the shop, and cross draft from opening doors at both ends of
> the
> > > shop, makes these more "windproof".  My goal is to work outside with the
> > > forge, or actually create a "windproof enough" burner to use it right on
> the
> > > acorn table to heat my parts on firebricks and get away from moving
> heavy
> > > cross sections in garden sculptures in and out of a forge all together.
> > >         Basicly creating a "rosebud" run off propane derived from
> hardware
> > > bought parts that you can just let set a while and not use those high
> > > pressure oxygen driven units that eat two 200 Cu Ft Oxygen tanks in a
> day of
> > > heavy bending (like on a gate or gazebo project).
> > >         If you point the sidearm burner intakes that are behind the heat
> > > shield, away from a wind source, I've found I can run an 18" shop fan
> three
> > > feet from the forge and not affect the burners.  If you have other
> burners
> > > that will perform this well in the wind, please let me know!
> > >
> >
> >
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