[TheForge] RE: TheForge Digest, Vol 5, Issue 37
TOOL GYPSY
toolgypsy at hotmail.com
Thu Jun 24 21:02:25 EDT 2004
Well i never thought about napalm but..... thanks for all the input on the
firepot querry.
Paddy p the
wannabe
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> 1. Firepots (PlumDon at aol.com)
> 2. Re: Where have all the firepots gone (Phil)
> 3. Re: Where have all the firepots gone (schade at acegroup.cc)
> 4. Re: Where have all the firepots gone (Darrell)
> 5. Re: Where have all the firepots gone (Chris Worsley)
> 6. Re: Where have all the firepots gone (Dave Brown)
> 7. Re: Where have all the firepots gone (Doug Ayen)
> 8. Re: Where have all the firepots gone (Blacksmith)
> 9. RE: Where have all the firepots gone (Michael H. Murphy)
> 10. OT - Computer stuff (Chris Caswell)
> 11. Re: OT - Computer stuff (Phlip)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 06:20:34 EDT
>From: PlumDon at aol.com
>Subject: [TheForge] Firepots
>To: theforge at mailman.qth.net
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>I might mention that there are also very nice, detailed plans for a firebox
>and tuyere in Randy McDaniel's book, "A Blacksmithing Primer", should you
>happen to have a copy or have one available. I have used this firepot
>frequently
>and it works well and is kinda fun to build if you enjoy a bit of easy
>welding.
>
>Don Plummer
>Plummer Design Works
>392 Hallman Mill Road
>Phoenixville, PA 19460
>610-495-5058
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>Message: 2
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 04:36:36 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Phil <mobjak at yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [TheForge] Where have all the firepots gone
>To: Sponsored by ABANA <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
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>On the one hand, I think fabricated firepots burn out
>quicker than cast iron ones. On the other hand, if it
>only lasts 20 years, is that a big deal?
>
>It sounds like a Centaur Forge Vulcan firepot would
>fit into your opening. I've been using one of these
>for about 24 years and like it. Some of the new
>firepots have a lip all the way around them that sits
>up above the forge table. I don't particularly care
>for this style. The Vulcan sits down below the forge
>table in front and back. It's a close copy of the old
>Buffalo Vulcan.
>
>Phil Rosche
>Summerville, SC
>
>--- TOOL GYPSY <toolgypsy at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Does anyone know of a source for coal forge firepots
> > in Canada???Does anyone
> > have a decent firepot with dump and clinker breaker
> > for sale?Will it fit in
> > a steel forge with a hole 91/2 by 11 1/2 or
> > close???Is there life on other
> > planets and if so i wonder if they might have a good
> > firepot for
> > sale,although shipping may be prohibitive.Does coal
> > smoke cause
> > flashbacks????
> >
> >
> > Paddy P the wannabe
> >
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>Message: 3
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 08:56:16 -0500
>From: schade at acegroup.cc
>Subject: Re: [TheForge] Where have all the firepots gone
>To: Sponsored by ABANA <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
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>On Jun 23, 2004, at 6:58 PM, TOOL GYPSY wrote:
>
> > .Does coal smoke cause flashbacks????
> >
> > Paddy P the wannabe
> >
> >
>
>____
>
>I love the smell of napalm in the morning.
>
>snort.
>
>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 08:05:02 -0700
>From: "Darrell" <darrell at machinemaster.com>
>Subject: Re: [TheForge] Where have all the firepots gone
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>He might be asking if it is the coal smoke that goes WOOF in the blower
>when
>you are not turning the crank. If that is the case, the answer is yes.
>Darrell
>
>http://www.machinemaster.com
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>Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 6:56 AM
>Subject: Re: [TheForge] Where have all the firepots gone
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>
> >
> > On Jun 23, 2004, at 6:58 PM, TOOL GYPSY wrote:
> >
> > > .Does coal smoke cause flashbacks????
> > >
> > > Paddy P the wannabe
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ____
> >
> > I love the smell of napalm in the morning.
> >
> > snort.
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>Message: 5
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 13:14:18 -0400
>From: Chris Worsley <worsley at verizon.net>
>Subject: Re: [TheForge] Where have all the firepots gone
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>Not so much the smoke itself, as the unburned gasses.
>Chris
>
>Darrell wrote:
>
> >He might be asking if it is the coal smoke that goes WOOF in the blower
>when
> >you are not turning the crank. If that is the case, the answer is yes.
> >Darrell
> >
> >http://www.machinemaster.com
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <schade at acegroup.cc>
> >To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> >Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 6:56 AM
> >Subject: Re: [TheForge] Where have all the firepots gone
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>On Jun 23, 2004, at 6:58 PM, TOOL GYPSY wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>.Does coal smoke cause flashbacks????
> >>>
> >>> Paddy P the wannabe
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>____
> >>
> >>I love the smell of napalm in the morning.
> >>
> >>snort.
> >>
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>Message: 6
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 12:33:24 -0500
>From: Dave Brown <quahog at tds.net>
>Subject: Re: [TheForge] Where have all the firepots gone
>To: Sponsored by ABANA <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
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>At 08:56 06/24/04, you wrote:
> >On Jun 23, 2004, at 6:58 PM, TOOL GYPSY wrote:
> >>.Does coal smoke cause flashbacks????
> >> Paddy P the wannabe
> >I love the smell of napalm in the morning.
> >
> >snort
>
>Bob,
>
>I don't think that's the same kind of flashback that he's asking about.
><grin>
>
>But coal smoke is unburned volitiles from the coal, so ... yes, it can
>cause flash backs if it first gets drawn back into your air supply tube. I
>don't know of any major concerns about the smoke going up the chimney, it
>cools off too fast.
>
>Dave Brown
>Heritage Smithing
>Green Bay, WI
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>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 13:53:19 -0400
>From: Doug Ayen <ayen at homeport.org>
>Subject: Re: [TheForge] Where have all the firepots gone
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>Quoth Chris Worsley (worsley at verizon.net):
> > Not so much the smoke itself, as the unburned gasses.
> > Chris
> >
> > Darrell wrote:
> >
> > >He might be asking if it is the coal smoke that goes WOOF in the blower
> > >when
> > >you are not turning the crank. If that is the case, the answer is yes.
> > >Darrell
>
>During a blacksmithing demo at a local school, I got the attention of
>a lot of the kids initially by lighting a lot of green coal, slowly
>pumping in the air until I had a good cloud of smoke going then gave it
>a good hard crank. The resulting fireball was appreciated.
>
>--doug
>
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>Message: 8
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 19:37:21 -0400
>From: "Blacksmith" <BLCKSMTH at WCnet.org>
>Subject: Re: [TheForge] Where have all the firepots gone
>To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
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> SOFA Southern Ohio Forge and Anvil has very good pots available.
>There are 2 sizes of rectangular pots and a round one also. I have had
>one of the rectangular ones since 1987 with no problems at all. They
>will also have replacement parts available for a long time to come if
>you should need anything.
>
>Bob Willman
>The Eagle's Anvil
>Bowling Green, Ohio
>WB8NQW
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Phil" <mobjak at yahoo.com>
>To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 07:36
>Subject: Re: [TheForge] Where have all the firepots gone
>
>
> > On the one hand, I think fabricated firepots burn out
> > quicker than cast iron ones. On the other hand, if it
> > only lasts 20 years, is that a big deal?
> >
> > It sounds like a Centaur Forge Vulcan firepot would
> > fit into your opening. I've been using one of these
> > for about 24 years and like it. Some of the new
> > firepots have a lip all the way around them that sits
> > up above the forge table. I don't particularly care
> > for this style. The Vulcan sits down below the forge
> > table in front and back. It's a close copy of the old
> > Buffalo Vulcan.
> >
> > Phil Rosche
> > Summerville, SC
> >
> > --- TOOL GYPSY <toolgypsy at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Does anyone know of a source for coal forge firepots
> > > in Canada???Does anyone
> > > have a decent firepot with dump and clinker breaker
> > > for sale?Will it fit in
> > > a steel forge with a hole 91/2 by 11 1/2 or
> > > close???Is there life on other
> > > planets and if so i wonder if they might have a good
> > > firepot for
> > > sale,although shipping may be prohibitive.Does coal
> > > smoke cause
> > > flashbacks????
> > >
> > >
> > > Paddy P the wannabe
> > >
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>Message: 9
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 19:54:39 -0400
>From: "Michael H. Murphy" <blacksmith at comcast.net>
>Subject: RE: [TheForge] Where have all the firepots gone
>To: "'magichammer'" <dave at magichammer.net>, "'Sponsored by ABANA'"
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>I noticed that the ash dumps on both of the fabricated firepots were welded
>from pipe/tubing. How about just using a pipe tee? They're not that
>expensive, and they work quite well.
>
>As for build-your-own vs. buy, Centaur does tend to be a bit pricey -- high
>quality, but a bit pricey. The major argument for building you own is that
>it will be the size and shape you want -- most of the time.
>
>Mike Murphy
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:theforge-
> > bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of magichammer
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 11:56 PM
> > To: Sponsored by ABANA
> > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Where have all the firepots gone
> >
> > There is also one by Bob Patrick,
> > http://magichammer.freeservers.com/fabricated_fire_pot_by_bob_patri.htm
> >
> > dave m
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David E. Smucker" <davesmucker at hotmail.com>
> > To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 9:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Where have all the firepots gone
> >
> >
> > > I think Dave Mudge has Lonnie's plans on the LAMA website --
> > > http://lametalsmiths.org/news/ not sure just where. But it's a good
> > site
> > > to have a look around.
> > >
> > > I found it -- it is under "How To"
> > >
> > >
>http://magichammer.freeservers.com/weld_your_own_fire_pot_by_lonnie.htm
> > >
> > >
> > > This makes a very good fire pot.
> > >
> > > Dave Smucker
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "William Futer" <wfuter102957 at comcast.net>
> > > To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 9:28 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Where have all the firepots gone
> > >
> > >
> > > > I have made the "Lonnie Farmer welded firepot" and I like it. I
>have
> > > taken
> > > > it out to demo and I have no problem heating or welding in it.
> > > >
> > > > bill
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Phlip" <phlip at 99main.com>
> > > > To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 8:15 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Where have all the firepots gone
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ene bichizh ogsen baina shuu...
> > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone know of a source for coal forge firepots in
> > Canada???Does
> > > > > anyone
> > > > > > have a decent firepot with dump and clinker breaker for
>sale?Will
> > it
> > > fit
> > > > > in
> > > > > > a steel forge with a hole 91/2 by 11 1/2 or close???Is there
>life
> > on
> > > > other
> > > > > > planets and if so i wonder if they might have a good firepot for
> > > > > > sale,although shipping may be prohibitive.Does coal smoke cause
> > > > > > flashbacks????
> > > > >
> > > > > Why not build your own? That's what I did. Now, I'm teaching folks
> > to
> > > > build
> > > > > them, and working out new designs- it's not terribly difficult.
> > > > >
> > > > > Saint Phlip,
> > > > > CoDoLDS
> > > > >
> > > > > "When in doubt, heat it up and hit it with a hammer."
> > > > > Blacksmith's credo.
> > > > >
> > > > > If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is probably
>not
> > a
> > > > > cat.
> > > > >
> >
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>Message: 10
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:02:54 -0400
>From: "Chris Caswell" <olayers at sover.net>
>Subject: [TheForge] OT - Computer stuff
>To: <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
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>Hi All
>
>Starting yesterday I have found that when connecting to Web sites (such as
>in my Favorites) I will get a "page not available", but by refreshing the
>page it appears normally. The only thing I have done recently was to
>update
>Zone Labs firewall. Could this be a virus?
>
>Thank you,
>
>Chris Caswell
>Caswell Wood & Iron
>Burlington, VT
>802-660-8248
>
>
>
>
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>Message: 11
>Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:01:04 -0400
>From: "Phlip" <phlip at 99main.com>
>Subject: Re: [TheForge] OT - Computer stuff
>To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>Message-ID: <051c01c45a47$83554d40$9cba1cd0 at phlip>
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>
>Ene bichizh ogsen baina shuu...
>
> > Starting yesterday I have found that when connecting to Web sites (such
>as
> > in my Favorites) I will get a "page not available", but by refreshing
>the
> > page it appears normally. The only thing I have done recently was to
>update
> > Zone Labs firewall. Could this be a virus?
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Chris Caswell
> > Caswell Wood & Iron
>
>Sounds like a glitch on your updated firewall. Go back over it, and see if
>the update changed any of your normal settings.
>
>Saint Phlip,
>CoDoLDS
>
>"When in doubt, heat it up and hit it with a hammer."
> Blacksmith's credo.
>
> If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is probably not a
>cat.
>
>Never a horse that cain't be rode,
>And never a rider who cain't be throwed....
>
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