[TheForge] Meteoric iron - wrap it in foil

[Andy Vida]

Phlip wrote:

> > a friend of mine has a business making dry suits, sells a lot to
> > the coast guard, fishing industry etc.  Turns out the hoods for
> > the dry suits which asr made from some sort of latex had found
> > a niche in the S&M sex market.  My friend had found another market,
> > or should I say another market had found my friend.  They refused
> > to sell to the S&M market on the grounds of morally being
> > against the subjugation of women or any one human being over another.

	That's silly.
> 
> Well, I'm familiar with that particular kink, and the participants are all
> willing, and they have specific rules to prevent people from getting more
> than they bargained for.

	This is precisely correct.  The "motto", if you will, is
	Safe, Sane, and Consensual.  In non-patholigical S&M circles
	there is no such thing as "subjugation of women".  The women
	who are bottoms, want to be subjugated.  It's all a fantasy
	thing and a means of being someone/thing else.  It is also
	something of a therapeutic thing for many.  Many of the so-called
	bottoms are high powered business types who need to release the
	tensions of their responsible lives by being told what to do
	and not having to make decisions.  The whole scene is, as Phlip
	puts it, a bit silly, but it is generally harmful.  I've met a
	few seriously pathological personalities, but they are the
	exception.  Oh yes, I'm not an S&M sort myself, but I've had
	several friends that were and have attended, erm... "events".
	Some was lame, some funny, some very erotic, and some just 
	plain scary.  Just in case you were wondering.  I'm sick and
	twisted enough without adding this sort of thing into my mix. ;)