[TheForge] Re: Nitric acid/OT

[magichammer]

Unless y'all are making charges to shoot anvils with,
can we plaese go back to blacksmithing before the
homeland security folks come down on us.
dave m

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Smith" <jfsmith at ameritech.net>
To: <artgawk at thegrid.net>; "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 1:11 AM
Subject: [TheForge] Re: Nitric acid/OT


>          I lurk on this group most of the time, but this is going in many
> directions. We all have the capacity to make destructive devices. Some
more
> powerful than others.
>          If the D.C. Sniper could do that much damage with boot camp
> training, think of what a SF qualified serviceman could do.
>          I buy many acids and other chemicals, I just need to sign a form
> when I pick them up, mainly that I have a business and are tax exempt. I
> have not purchased raw nitrates, because I don't use them, but I can buy
> black powder and could easily build a bomb. You don't need a book on these
> things as specialty terrorist items, high school chemistry is all I would
> need, and it's been many decades since I was in high school.
>
>          The choice between freedom and security is simple, they can take
> my freedom away; when they pry my cold dead fingers off of my finishing
hammer.
>
>
> Jerry
>
> At 01:29 AM 7/20/2004, you wrote:
> >The whole proposition is silly. Most any of us could wreak terrible
> >damage/morbidity/mortality with materials on hand.
> >The basic premise our nation is founded on is that the citizens are
> >competent adults who hold it all in their hands...we seem to have
> >abandoned that view.
> >It's easy to fuckthings up, always has been. We can't make it not so and
> >still remain functional..........
> >Just as we can't be perfectly secure and have much freedom at all.
> >Feh indeed....PF
> >
> >Mike Spencer wrote:
> >
> >>Andy quoth:
> >>z
> >>
> >>
> >>>I suspect this is some more 9/11 backlash.  It's very easy
> >>>to make things that go boom with it.  Gun cotton, while not> explosive
> >>>in itself, becomes so when confined.  A few large
> >>>bales of cotton soaked in nitric would make a goodly amount
> >>>of boom.
> >>>
> >>
> >>[RANT MODE ON]
> >>
> >>Really irritates me.  You can make nitroglycerine in yr back yard,
> >>too.  No self-respecting terrorist would mess around with hazardous
> >>chemicals when he could buy or steal modern explosives.  I suppose
> >>that, oh, say, one in ten depressed teenage wannabe-Matrix-Dude loner
> >>geeks who tried it might succeed and one in seven of those might
> >>survive the process.
> >>
> >>Any day now, you'll need a munitions license to own a beat up
> >>honky-tonk piano lest you pry off the celluloid key covers, shred them
> >>up and bomb your least-favorite authority figure.
> >>
> >>Feh.
> >>
> >>[RANT MODE  OFF]
> >>
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