[TheForge] O/T Survivor

GHS [email protected]
Fri Jan 2 22:03:59 2004


John, I will bow to your superior knowledge on the airplane aspect of 
this and crawl off back into my corner, cue up Goldfinger and rethink my 
reservations about arming plane passengers. Maybe we should issue 
weapons to every single one... hmmm..... nah probably not,  but hmmmm.

Mike Graf

John Husvar wrote:

> GHS wrote:
> 
>> Phlip, IN NO WAY, am I in favor of disarming the populace. Previous 
>> posts of mine will stand witness to that.
>>
>> I just would not want to be in the plane , flying at altitude, when 
>> someone pops out a window.
>>
>> Mike Graf
>>
> 
> Well, you'd be a little cold and maybe uncomfortable in the ears for the 
> time it'd take the pilot to make a controlled descent to an altitude 
> where pressurization is no longer needed. That's about it: That and 
> using those execrable oxygen masks. :)
> 
> God, how I wish Goldfinger had never been made!
> 
> Explosive decompression is a myth, folks. Gad, even Mythbusters did a 
> show on the subject. Status of myth: Busted. (Discovery Channel, IIRC)
> 
> The pressurization control valving on an airliner adds up to about the 
> diameter of a basketball when wide open. All a bullet through the skin 
> of an airliner would cause is that valving would have to be closed a 
> little tighter. Loss of an entire window might mean the pilot would have 
> to descend to below 10,000 feet in a little bit of a hurry.
> 
> Getting a whole window to blow out would be a little more difficult. 
> They puncture more like a car windshield.
> 
> Anybody remember the airliner over the pacific, out of Honolulu, that 
> lost 1/3 of its cabin roof at 30,000 feet? One fatality when a flight 
> attendant was blown out of the cabin by the 400+ MPH slipstream, several 
> minor injuries, and a safe return to Honolulu.
> 
> Airliners are pretty hard to hurt. Even that plane that crashed in Sioux 
> City kept flying with most of the hydraulic controls disabled by an 
> engine compressor coming apart. Pilot came very close to landing it 
> under control. The airlines and manufacturer rerouted some of the lines 
> to make such an event less likely.
> 
> I oughta keep a couple of text files on this subject. That way I could 
> just cut and paste. :)
> 

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