[TheForge] superquench questions

[Bruce Freeman]

Looks like Basic I is now available over the Internet.  See
http://www.shaklee.net/800-701-1959/product/00081 .  That's the quart
size.  It used to be available in gallons.  Don't know if it still is.

There's some discussion of superquench in Ron Reil's archives of
theForge, volume 1.

Bruce
NJ

>>> sos at alum.mit.edu 12/28/2004 9:16:32 AM >>>
Just reporting what I've seen; no testing here.

Simple Green sounded a bit strange to me. Jet Dry on the other hand, 
sounds like a wetting agent, which may be the ticket.

I've also seen Amway LOC suggested, but it has the same availability 
problems as Basic I.

Steve

Bruce Freeman wrote:
> As far as I can tell, none of those three products even remotely
> resembles Basic I. 
> 
> A better bet might be a photographic wetting agent, as has been
> suggested by some.
> 
> I don't have this as a fact, but it appears that Basic H may be Basic
I
> diluted 1:1 with water.  
> 
> However, in the USA, Basic I is easily available through
distributors. 
> Substitutions are not really necessary.
> 
> Bruce
> NJ
> 
> 
>>>>sos at alum.mit.edu 12/27/2004 9:20:30 PM >>>
> 
> Jet Dry, Simple Green, and Calgon are mentioned various places on the

> web as substitutes for Basic I. I haven't tried it. You can read
> several 
> opinions here:
> http://www.reil1.net/theforge1.html 
> where you can also find the recipie. Search (control F on Windows)
for
> 
> superquench.
> 
> If you are using mild steel, these days it isn't so mild. Keep an
eye
> on 
> your dies to make sure they don't crack (good idea whether you use 
> superquench or not).
> 
> Welding beads may have higher carbon than the surrounding steel, 
> possibly too high for superquench (it may crack or be too brittle.
> 
> Not that I've used much superquench in the past 8 years or so, no 
> expertise here.
> 
> Steve
> 
> Schade wrote:
> 
>>I bought a set of the dovetail die adaptors for my LG 25 from Sid. I
> 
> 
>>have some chunks of 2"x3" to make a few sets of dies.
>>
>>Do any of you use "superquench" on hammer dies?
>>
>>What is the current recipe?
>>
>>Is there somewhere online to get the Shaklee stuff?
>>
>>Has anyone ever Rockwelled after superquenching?
>>
>>Should I weld the die together before superquenching?
>>
>>Is a 5 gallon bucket of SQ big enuf to quench hammer dies?
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Bob
>>
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