hello; so everyone has the opportunity to view a complete demangled msg i have used one of the more mangled ones for a sample. the complete mangled msg http://204.238.34.206/my-test-msg-all.txt the complete demangled msg ( autoformatted like link 2 in my previous msg ) http://204.238.34.206/my-test-msg-all-format.txt -- terry l. ridder ><>