[TheForge] allstate oxy-propane torch

[Dave Mudge]

I'll jump in and say that I do NOT have the 'magic torch' can't afford one.
But I do use propane and oxygen. I have a 150 gallon propane tank near
the shop. The gas goes through a high volume/pressure regulator that the
company supplied upon request. It's a small little red one. Then the gas
goes through roughly 40 feet of 3/4 inch galvanized pipe to the shop.
At the shop is a ball valve (water type, not gas) then it tees off . One
side
through an acetylene regulator and acetylene hose. The other side to
another (water) ball valve and another high pressure regulator to a plastic
air hose to the gas forge. It's been in daily use for 15 years.
I know that it ain't supposed to work, and I certainly do not recommend
this system for anyone to use. It's just what I use.
see it here http://magichammer.freeservers.com/page75.html
and here http://magichammer.freeservers.com/page9.html
The torch is a regular Victor barrel and I use both propane and accet. tips.
The cutting torch works much better with the special propane tip but
the larger (#6 - #10) accet welding tips seem to work as well as the
propane tips and cost a lot less. It may use a little more oxy. than the
oxy/accet.
set up but not 21 times more maybe 2 times more. Oxy is cheap, Propane is
cheap
Acetylene is expensive.

dave m


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Brown" <quahog at tds.net>
To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] allstate oxy-propane torch


> At 10:40 08/16/04, you wrote:
> > >
> > > Very simple, it just does.
> >
> >         Not much of an answer in terms of chemical science, though.
>
> Sometimes experience is the best evidence.  Anyway, Clyde isn't a
scientist
> or chemist .... Right Clyde?
>
> I was going to get all involved in this discussion, but it doesn't seem to
> be worth it.  It's like the fairy tail about how you can't use an acet
> regulator for propane.  The gaskets and seals in fuel regulators were
> changed decades ago and the manufacturers use the same gaskets and seals
in
> all of their fuel regulators.  But you can't dispell the myth in spite of
> the information received from the manufacturers.  So, it probably doesn't
> or won't matter what the AllStates people tell you or don't tell you, the
> pseudo-chemists will always claim it can't be.
>
> So Clyde and Jerry will just have to live with the fact that they really
> don't know what they know, in spite of being the only ones in the
> discussion with actual experience with this torch.
>
> It ain't worth my breath.
>
> Dave Brown
> Heritage Smithing
> Green Bay, WI
>
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