[TheForge] Speaking of hammers

Sat Apr 17 08:14:02 2004

YEA YEA 
Mike Wolfe
--- "David E. Smucker" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I have the clamp feature on my early "Bull Hammer"
> serial number 8, and
> never use it.  I fact depending on tooling height it
> is a not something you
> want to have happen.  Vote is now 0 to 2
> 
> Dave Smucker
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jerry Frost" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 7:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Speaking of hammers
> 
> 
> > I agree, Mark did the work and deserves to get
> paid for his plans.
> >
> > I've seen a couple sketches of Mark Krause's
> control scheme and heard
> about
> > some of the problems he's had with heat and
> scaling it up. Basically his
> > valve scheme has the compressor piston compressing
> air on both strokes at
> > idle and venting excess.
> >
> > I'm using the Massey valving scheme which only
> compresses air on one
> stroke
> > at idle and doesn't produce much excess compressed
> air to vent. It
> shouldn't
> > suffer from heat buildup and should scale up with
> minimal hassle.
> >
> > Like I say, I'm pretty firmly commited to the
> Massey valve scheme, I just
> > want to know how far to carry it. The poll now
> stands at: 0 Yea - 1 Nay
> >
> > Thanks Steve.
> >
> > Frosty
> > ------------------------
> > If it ain't forged
> > it ain't real.
> > Wrought iron is.
> > The FrostWorks
> >
> > Meadow Lakes, AK.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Howell Steve" <[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:35 PM
> > Subject: RE: [TheForge] Speaking of hammers
> >
> >
> > > Frosty,
> > > did you get Krause's booklet yet?
> > > It sounds verbatim to what you are describing
> and I would concur with
> him
> > on
> > > the issue you ask; I DON'T use the clamp circuit
> enough to feel it's a
> > > must-have. He felt it was uneccessary for a
> home-built and designed it
> out
> > > of the valve- much simpler. If I need to have
> something stay put for
> > bending
> > > I use the vise.
> > >
> > > I could send you a copy of Mark's booklet but
> that would not do him
> > justice.
> > > Perhaps someone here can tell you how to get a
> hold of him.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >
> > >
> > > I might talk to some of the guys building self
> contained hammers later
> on
> > in
> > > the design phase. Not surprisingly (for me
> anyway) I'm looking at a very
> > > different configuration for the hammer itself.
> The functioning of the
> > thing
> > > though is pretty tried and true over the past
> century. Also, somebody on
> > > this list tried using a 1/4 turn ball valve on a
> hammer he was building
> > and
> > > reported it worked just fine, good control but
> idled with the ram on the
> > > anvil. So I'm not too concerned about making it
> work, just how many
> > > functions to pack into it.
> > >
> > > And, that's why I'm looking for opinions from
> the guys/gals who use the
> > > things.
> > >
> > > Frosty
> > > ------------------------
> > > If it ain't forged
> > > it ain't real.
> > > Wrought iron is.
> > > The FrostWorks
> > >
> > > Meadow Lakes, AK.
> > >
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