[TheForge] Speaking of hammers

Fri Apr 16 23:28:00 2004

I have the clamp feature on my early "Bull Hammer" serial number 8, and
never use it.  I fact depending on tooling height it is a not something you
want to have happen.  Vote is now 0 to 2

Dave Smucker
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Frost" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Speaking of hammers

> I agree, Mark did the work and deserves to get paid for his plans.
>
> I've seen a couple sketches of Mark Krause's control scheme and heard
about
> some of the problems he's had with heat and scaling it up. Basically his
> valve scheme has the compressor piston compressing air on both strokes at
> idle and venting excess.
>
> I'm using the Massey valving scheme which only compresses air on one
stroke
> at idle and doesn't produce much excess compressed air to vent. It
shouldn't
> suffer from heat buildup and should scale up with minimal hassle.
>
> Like I say, I'm pretty firmly commited to the Massey valve scheme, I just
> want to know how far to carry it. The poll now stands at: 0 Yea - 1 Nay
>
> Thanks Steve.
>
> Frosty
> ------------------------
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> it ain't real.
> Wrought iron is.
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>
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>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Howell Steve" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:35 PM
> Subject: RE: [TheForge] Speaking of hammers
>
>
> > Frosty,
> > did you get Krause's booklet yet?
> > It sounds verbatim to what you are describing and I would concur with
him
> on
> > the issue you ask; I DON'T use the clamp circuit enough to feel it's a
> > must-have. He felt it was uneccessary for a home-built and designed it
out
> > of the valve- much simpler. If I need to have something stay put for
> bending
> > I use the vise.
> >
> > I could send you a copy of Mark's booklet but that would not do him
> justice.
> > Perhaps someone here can tell you how to get a hold of him.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >
> >
> > I might talk to some of the guys building self contained hammers later
on
> in
> > the design phase. Not surprisingly (for me anyway) I'm looking at a very
> > different configuration for the hammer itself. The functioning of the
> thing
> > though is pretty tried and true over the past century. Also, somebody on
> > this list tried using a 1/4 turn ball valve on a hammer he was building
> and
> > reported it worked just fine, good control but idled with the ram on the
> > anvil. So I'm not too concerned about making it work, just how many
> > functions to pack into it.
> >
> > And, that's why I'm looking for opinions from the guys/gals who use the
> > things.
> >
> > Frosty
> > ------------------------
> > If it ain't forged
> > it ain't real.
> > Wrought iron is.
> > The FrostWorks
> >
> > Meadow Lakes, AK.
> >
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