When I try to open the files it loads Acrobat Reader which then has a fatal error. I've tried to get two of the documents and both have failed. Robert Ehrenberger Shelbyville, Mo. From: Larry and Pat Brown <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [TheForge] cosira web site Reply-To: [email protected] Did anyone have any luck opening the first two books, Blacksmith's Craft & The Blacksmith Manual Illustrated? L Brown