At 07:42 09/11/03 -0700, you wrote: >Ralph: Isn't Bob Bergman also the point of contact for the Turkish Sahinler >air-hammers as well? Grant Not to mention the famous (or is that infamous?) KA-75 air hammer and the Off-Center Forge lightweight tongs. On top of that he does some masterful work. Dave Brown <who isn't afraid to kiss-up> Dave Brown Heritage Smithing Green Bay, WI ABANA, UMBA, GoM, MODA, ARG