[TheForge] Re: stack o' plates vs, slab o' steel

Mon Oct 20 13:46:00 2003

I agree with Tom. A large foot print ,single homogenous plate is th way to
go.weld a couple of shackles or eyes to the plate to move it, and then scarf
them off when in position.
You could also try to make friends with a local wrecker- tow truck driver
and get him to move it for a nominal cost.
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Donahoe" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 10:33 AM
Subject: RE: [TheForge] Re: stack o' plates vs, slab o' steel


> Tom,
>
> Never been one to shoot the messenger, but that sure wasn't what I wanted
to
> hear :).  It's not moving a 3K# slab around the shop floor that bothers
me,
> the bigger problem is moving it out of the trailer with jacks and dunnage
> and rollers, et.al. I have a jib crane that will handle  500#+ easily.
>
> Reminds me of the time I got my 25#LG (about 900#) home and my wife wanted
> to watch me get it out of the pickup truck.  I told her she was welcome to
> as long as she didn't say or ask anything as I couldn't have any
> distractions.  After about 5 minutes I made her go upstairs, she just
> couldn't do it :)
>
> Thanks for your input, I'll start stocking up on timber pieces.  Kevin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Thomas A. Troszak
> Sent: Monday, 20 October, 2003 11:01 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [TheForge] Re: stack o' plates vs, slab o' steel
>
>
>
>
>
> > From: "Kevin Donahoe" <[email protected]>
> > Subject: RE: [TheForge] Re:Mass vs. acceleration vs. soil (A Novel)
>
> > Sooooooooo, Tom, I was planning on sticking my 100# hammer on a stack of
> > 1/2" plate.  Would a weld on each corner get it to simulate a solid
plate,
> > or a couple of plug welds under the anvil block?  It's just more
feasible
> to
> > handle 8 94x4)plates weighing 325#, than one of 2400#.  I hadn't really
> > considered the old clicking balls analogy, I can see how one might
> pulverize
> > their concrete slab in short order.
> >
> > Thanks, Kevin
>
>
> Dear Kevin,
>
> Alas, our personal research indicates not. Our friend Jock Dempsey related
> to me of actually trying this with a large steam hammer, I think they used
> 'bout thirty 1/2" plates, and the thing just kind of bounced all over the
> place. Unsatisfactory result.
>
> I would suggest no for two reasons, the clicking ball analogy, and the
> personal experience of a man who I think is pretty sharp. I was
essentially
> having the same debate with Jock a couple of years ago.  Plug welds might
> help some, but I think it sounds like more work than just buying a thick
> piece of steel.  Since I mostly work alone, and I can only carry about 150
> lbs. comfortably, I would rather drag one 3000 lb. slab across the floor
> once, than try to wrestle eight nasty, floppy 375 lb. sheets, yuck.
Personal
> preference  :)
>
> You certainly CAN mount your hammer on a stack of plates, but we both
agree
> that it won't necessarily give you the desired result.
>
> By the way, moving heavy plates is tedious, but not impossible.  You can
> move just about anything on a smooth hard floor with a couple of pipe
> rollers and a come-along, or $Hillman$ rollers...
>
> On dirt I use 2x8 boards or pieces of rectangular steel tube or sheets of
> plywood (depending on conditions and slope) with vaseline to slide stuff
> (like the Egyptians did?)
>
> I have video of me moving a 10 ton boxcar on rollers using a $25.00
> come-along and my parked GMC van as an anchor.
>
> Fear not a mere slab o' steel.
>
> Tom Troszak
>
>
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