[TheForge] Subject: Suggestions needed
forscroungeablesteel
Bruce Freeman
[email protected]
Thu Nov 20 08:38:01 2003
I'm sure he must use a striker at times.
Bruce
NJ
>>> [email protected] 11/19/2003 8:27:57 PM >>>
Mr. Ross almost always uses only hand hammer.
dan tull
georgia
abba, afc, S.C. psba, obg,sofa
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From: "Bruce Freeman" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Subject: Suggestions needed
forscroungeablesteel
> It makes me wonder if Peter Ross was trying to do it with a hand
hamer!
> No doubt he knows what he's talking about, but forge welds become a
LOT
> easier with a massive hammer. The weld takes first try, no bouncing
or
> missing. How massive a hammer depends upon how massive the piece
being
> welded.
>
> Bruce
> NJ
>
> >>> [email protected] 11/19/2003 1:15:49 PM >>>
>
>
>
> Bruce Freeman wrote:
> >
> > Ken,
> >
> > Case-hardened mild steel is not suitable for a hammer face. The
> depth
> > of hard steel is to little (perhaps 1/16") and in some cases a
hard
> face
> > on a soft base can be counterproductive. Andy Vida tried this
idea
> (not
> > case-hardened, but some commercially applied hardfacing) and the
> > hardfacing shattered, IIRC. Not good.
>
> That was on a hammer die. The problem there was the face was
> only about 1/4" thick. Should have been at least 1/2" or even
> 3/4, but it was $$ enough at 1/4". As you recall it was an
> experiment in potential materials for facing anvils.
> >
> > By "facing" I meant the addition of a significant chunk of hard
> steel.
> > This would probably have to be welded on. In principle it could
be
> > forge-welded on, but in practice that might be a bitch to do.
>
> I remember Peter Ross telling a crowd what a bitch it can be
> to forge weld a 1" square face onto a hammer head. He said
> as you get larger the bitch-factor goes way up. Gives some
> perspective on the skill of the smiths who used to weld the
> faces on to anvils... even small ones.
>
> > Conceivably it could be attached in another way, say by loop and
> wedge,
> > like top tools on Spencer's TH, but that merely changes how the
> welding
> > has to be done.
>
> It could also be jump-welded, but I think you would have a
> time of finding someone with an apparatus capable of doing
> a weld that size.
> >
> > Thanks for the Fazzio's contact info. I hve visted them, but
> they're
> > too far away for frequent trips. I just requested a quote.
However,
> I
> > suspect places like Fazzio's are not too common...
>
> Head down to Beacon in Freehold one night before dropping in
> on Marshal. They may have what you seek.
>
> Oh, another possibility: machine the head and anvil to
> accept dies like a power hammer. MOre involved, yes,
> but opens up some interesting top and bottom tool
> possibilities, especially if you have a quick change
> mount... but perhaps this is getting a bit afield of
> the intended simplicity behind the design.
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