[TheForge] Suggestions needed for scroungeable steel

Wed Nov 19 10:34:00 2003

Must have been a local thing for me.   Probably paperwork the yards 
didn't want to deal with.  Someday I will research it again. 

Charles

Phlip wrote:

>Ene bichizh ogsen baina shuu...
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>>Pete,
>>This particular TH will be quite simple.  The ram face IS the hammer
>>face.  No upper tooling.  Hence it needs to be hard enough not to
>>mushroom when it strikes a tool.  I expect to harden and temper it like
>>an ordinary hammer face.
>>Bruce
>>NJ
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>Well, if you need RR track, I can get you all you want over here in CT, and
>spikes as well- $0.25 / lb, at the Norwich scrapyard.
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>Saint Phlip,
>CoDoLDS
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>"When in doubt, heat it up and hit it with a hammer."
> Blacksmith's credo.
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> If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is probably not a
>cat.
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>Never a horse that cain't be rode,
>And never a rider who cain't be throwed....
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bruce Freeman" <[email protected]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 8:43 AM
>Subject: Re: [TheForge] Suggestions needed for scroungeable steel
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>>>>>[email protected] 11/18/2003 11:33:20 PM >>>
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>>Bruce:
>>I'd respectfully argue that a hard face on a treadle hammer is not
>>desirable. A softer face will "stick" to a struck tool allowing greater
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>>latitude in alignment. With a hard face, more struck tools go flying to
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>>mysterious locations where they hide for years.    Pete F
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>>Bruce Freeman wrote:
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>>>I'm designing another treadle hammer, a lightweight job.  I want the
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>>ram
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>>>to be 20#.  What would be ideal is square or roundstock of about 2
>>>sq.in. in cross-section (i.e., 2" square or 2.25" round) and about
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>>18"
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>>>long.
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>>>Ideally, the material would be suitable for use as a hammer, with
>>>ordinary hardening & tempering.  Exotic materials not needed, but
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>>mild
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>>>steel wouldn't be appropriate unless faced with tool steel (a
>>>possibility I'd prefer to avoid).
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>>>Since I prefer to design in scroungeable materials, I could use some
>>>suggestions as to sources of such steel.  The truck axles I've seen
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>>>of smaller diameter than this (though I've seen tractors with axles
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>>>3" dia.).  Track pins seem to be shorter than this - like 8" or so.
>>>Anyone have any other suggestions - preferably of materials you'd
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>>>no particular trouble scrounging yourself?
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>>>Thanks in advance,
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>>>Bruce
>>>NJ
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