[TheForge] RE: Question...

Steve Smith [email protected]
Wed Nov 5 07:11:04 2003


This sure sounds strange. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to live in a 
community of other electrical engineers. Just make sure you get paid 
when you do the work, don't get talked waiting for a percentage when the 
house sells!

Sounding weird (and possibly too good to be true) also makes me think 
you should be careful about deposits and have payment spread through the 
work cycle (rather than all at the end). Charge separately for design, 
for instance, partial at work begin, etc. That way you're covered if 
something falls through.

Steve Smith


Andrew Vida wrote:
> What happened at our short business lunch:
> 
> We met and what I found out was that this will be a LAWYERS' COMMUNITY.
> Not sure if houses or condos or both, but it is a relatively small build,
> meaning high $$.  Also, my associates suspect the developer will want us
> to do the iron design, though this is not yet established.  All we know is
> that they have expressed the desire for a "lawyerly" look.
>  The other thing I was told that it may be a shoe-in due to the connection
> between one of my associates and the developer, who runs the show soup to
> nuts (RE, finance, GC, etc.)  If this is so, that would be great, but I
> will believe it when I see signed contracts and a sizable upfront check in
> my hot little hands.
>  Not to get ahead of myself, but if this becomes reality, there will have
> to be some changes to their shop.  They are fabricators.  Well equipped 
> with ironworkers, hydraulic presses, cold saws, shears, etc. but nothing
> specifically oriented to hot hammer work.  Gas forges and other basics
> will have to be had.  At some point I would like to ask you folks for
> recommendations.  I do recall that wailin' gas forge they had at Asheville
> for the demos of the 300# Chambersburg.  Anyone recall who made them and
> whether they are still in business?
>  I have a new question due to the design wrinkle that I've not come up
> against before.  If WE are commissioned to do the design work, how does 
> one do a cost estimate?  There's a wailing big difference between 
> $100/ft fencing and $1K/foot ornamental ironwork.  We run into a 
> chicken-or-the-egg situation here.
> 
> While I can think of several ways this might be done, I consider deciding
> this by myself to be as wise as being my own lawyer or brain surgeon, so
> I would solicit your help on this when the time comes.
>  If this turns out to be half as good as it sounds, it should be a very
> cool
> project.
>  -Andy
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