[TheForge] interesting project

Tue May 20 22:05:02 2003

OK sometimes its great to get all the info, give me a hour or so and I'll
let u know how to "make it work"  for a portable unit I am assuming he has
some 100CFM jackhammer compressors if so I can get you enough info to make
it work.

Paul

----- Original Message -----
From: "terry l. ridder" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] interesting project

> hello;
>
> first, if there was someone in northern illinois that had the "right"
> equipment they would probably use them. after several searches on the
> web there is no one found in northern illinois. those that are listed
> are all automobile body shops which specialize in depainting automobiles
> to bare metal. there is no one available with a portable unit.
>
> this is not an issue of a d.i.y being cheap it is an issue of there is
> no one else available. equipment cost is not really an issue either what
> is an issue is that of the equipment dealers i have contacted there are
> not units available in the time frame required.
>
> so along the theme of the 'junkyard wars' thread we are attempting to
> make do with what is at hand.
>
> concerning the automobile body shop baking soda cost, he is offering it
> at $11.62 usd per bag. which i personally find pretty reasonable. figure
> perhaps 6 bags. the owner of this mansion is also the owner of the local
> rental yard/welding shop. so equipment is readily available. he
> inherited the house from a relative. he is more than willing to buy soda
> blasting equipment because rightly so he can rent it out when finished
> with the house. again there is no equipment available in the required
> time frame.
>
> now if your are willing to come from the pacific northwest to northern
> illinois with all your equipment for three hours work perhaps we need to
> talk. travel expenses, lodging, etc would not be covered. three hours of
> work at $50.00 usd per hour plus 6 bags of course soda at $11.62 usd per
> bag would be covered. btw, the job needs to be done by saturday. today
> to tuesday, and the clock is ticking.
>
> On Tue, 20 May 2003, Paul Hewitt wrote:
>
> paul>
> paul> I said sweep up and scrape up as much as possible and wash the rest
down. we
> paul> do it quite often.  As for using nitrogen, only if you have about
100CFM or
> paul> more.  I have built somewhere in the neighborhood of about 700 soda
blasting
> paul> systems, and plain old sandblasters won't work.  Soda has a high
"shear
> paul> factor"  sand will easily pour and slide down hill, soda cakes
together, and
> paul> forms steep cliffs, and will not flow through the system.  Also soda
when
> paul> not proportioned correctly will "jam" in your hose  and I do mean
jam, its
> paul> takes some time to clean a 15 foot hose.  Also DRY air is a must,
any
> paul> moisture from "cold" air will cake the soda almost instantly because
soda
> paul> wants to absorb moisture.  There isn't anything more fun that a 50#
pressure
> paul> tank FULL of caked soda break out the hammer and wrenches and start
taking
> paul> it apart.  We also manufacture water blasting systems, which use
air/soda
> paul> along with a neutral PH water stream (acid PH would destroy the soda
> paul> instantly).  This does less damage to wood and soft substrates.
Also anyone
> paul> worried about the effects of an little extra soda, wash it down with
some
> paul> vinegar or acetic acid.  (same thing just I purchase acetic acid in
> paul> concentrate and dilute it 1/4 oz to 5 gallons as a wash.
> paul>
> paul> As for the soda, if you can buy it Cool, mind you its about 12.00 a
bag, but
> paul> from an autobody shop that's selling it "at cost" I bet he charges
25.00 or
> paul> more.  I am often dismayed at sometimes the do-it yourself attitude,
pay
> paul> some dude with the right equipment for 3 hours work and 50.00 and
hour,
> paul> he'll burn about 2 bags of soda an hour, or go buy cheap equipment
and 25.00
> paul> a bag soda and spend 10 hours at it burning the same 2 bags and
hour.  Which
> paul> is more expensive?
> paul>
> paul> Its kind of like blacksmithing if you didn't do it as a hobby or a
living,
> paul> would you recommend someone go have a railing made or go buy all the
> paul> equipment and spend thousands learning just to make one
railing???????
> paul>
> paul> grumphh...........
> paul>
> paul> Paul
> paul>
>
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