Hey Schade ..... You'd actually have to use one in order for it to loosen up.. <grin> Dave Brown At 17:36 06/27/03 -0500, you wrote: >Larry, > >When I replace a handle a gob of epoxy goes in with the new handle. I >haven't had one come loose with epoxy. > >Bob No matter how idiot-proof we make anything, society insists on producing a better idiot.