[TheForge] MORE OT - spamming, and such troubles (was Re: OT Al McClure)

[Gabriel Cain]

<quote who="terry l. ridder">
> i do not use spews.org nor am i in any way associated with spews.org.

Good for you. ;)  I didn't mean to insinuate that you were. :)

> given the history of other realtime-blackhole services being sued,
> spews.org has elected to remain anonymous. i have no idea who is behind
> spews.org.

*nods*  Indeed.  IIRC, the only way to get ahold of them is through
"news://news.admin.net-abuse.sightings".

> gabriel, i am open minded, would you be able to provide an example of a
> valid provider that is listed in spews.org? it is my experience that
> spews.org targets the ips that is harbouring the spammers. if there is
> collateral damage that is the isp's problem and not spews.org problem.

Well, for a while, my system was blocked by them.  Heck of a time getting
out of it.  I've got a lot of users, and occasionally, one of them is a
spammer.  Happily, they're quickly noticed and terminated.

> i personally like our approach, deny everyone, whitelist those that
> e-mail will be received from.

That's a very understandable way to approach it, but unfortunately, it
doesn't work on very large userbases -- the support costs for that would
be too high for it to be practical.

> Terry L. Ridder ><>

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