[TheForge] Re: OT Al McClure

[terry l. ridder]

hello;

with all due respect, this type of spam blocker is doing nothing to
really stop spam. the spammer does not care if you read the spam or not,
that is immaterial, what matters to the spammer is if it was delivered.
we have gone over to a complete whitelist for e-mail. everyone is
blocked from even delivering e-mail. only those e-mail addresses
explictly entered in the whitelist will be be accepted for delivery and
only from the domain name service list 'mx' host. there are two e-mail
addresses which are required by various 'rfc's to accept e-mail no
matter what, those are 'abuse' and 'postmaster'. so now the spammers are
spamming those. there are some good free spam delivery blocking services
out there. in my opinion, spews.org is the best of the pack.

http://www.spews.org.

since going over to a complete whitelist, none of the end-users receive
spam. a whitelist does mean that the sendmail logs need to be monitored
for valid e-mail which is being rejected. those log entries which may
indicate that a valid e-mail message was rejected are tagged and it is
up to the end-users to tell us whether to whitelist them or not.

what is needed is a federally sponsored signup list. similar to the
new 'do not call' list, except those e-mail addresses entered would
accept spam. if the e-mail address is not in the list do not send spam.
any federal action also needs to allow the end-user to seek civil
penalties if someone does spam them. those penalties need to go after
the isps which are harboring the spammers and issuing those 'pink'
contracts.

with the new 'do not call' list the amount of spam is just going to
continue to increase. they may not be able to call you but they can sure
spam you. the intent of the 'do not call' list is basically correct the
follow through sucks. the feds are just moving the problem from the
telephone to the mailbox.

On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Harland Johnson wrote:

harland> 
harland> Sounds like Al McClure may have adopted the same spam blocker that my Rev 
harland> friend has.   I and many others may be forced to adopt one similar. 
harland> 
harland> Spam blockers  work several ways.  One subscription spam blocker that a 
harland> preacher friend of mine uses, sends an email reply to every "new" email 
harland> address received asking "who they are and why" they wish to be added to his 
harland> recipient list. 
harland> 
harland> If a live person respondes to the email, then the Rev gets to see it, and 
harland> future emails go through immediately.  If not, the email remains simply 
harland> remains blocked, and will be deleted in 72 hours. 
harland> 
harland> When I got the "Who are  you letter" from his spam blocker, I wrote a short 
harland> note, and got my usual warm responce from the Rev.  He said that his 
harland> software was now blocking upto 5,000 spam mails per week.  As I am running 
harland> about 200 spam emails per day, (spams that make it threw my  anti spam junk 
harland> mail software),   I have been thinking of purchasing the same antispam 
harland> software that he has.  At least that way those spam with spoofed and fake 
harland> return emails offering me larger breasts and bigger male parts, etc
harland> would never waste my time deleting them.  I am running 70 to 80 percent 
harland> spam, and it is becoming quite a waste, and worse as it camiflages the good 
harland> stuff. 
harland> 
harland> Dann Johnson 
harland> 

Jerry Frost writes: 

frosty> >
frosty> > I got an E-mail from Al McClure and when I replied I got a spamblocker
frosty> > message from his ISP. It wanted me to ask to be added to a recipient list.
frosty> > Being the naturally suspicious character I am I'd rather not get added to
frosty> > another spam list. It'd be different if I recognized the name. 
frosty> >
frosty> > So, Al, if you're on one of the lists you can ask your questions here. or
frosty> > add me to your recipient list and resend to me off list. Either is fine with
frosty> > me. 
frosty> >
frosty> > Frosty
frosty> >
frosty> >

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