[TheForge] Forging blackberries?
Mike Linn
[email protected]
Tue Jul 8 23:19:00 2003
For those following this thread, I've posted a few photos of an acorn die
2 types of acorns and a mouse. I loaned out the open-faced dies so I dont
have pictures of them but, if Im feeling froggy this weekend, I'll make a
blackberry die and post it for those interested.
mike
At 06:41 PM 7/7/2003 -0600, you wrote:
Nah, not if you start with large
enough stock,
I have an acorn die thats about the same size and it even leaves a sprue
out the top end that has to be ground off.
Id probably shoot for 3/4{quot} rnd and fuller it down to about 3/8{quot}
for about an inch round up the end and wham!!!! we do this with
mouse dies all the time, you get the nose ears and eyes all in one
die. If youd like I can post photos of the dies and the resulting
forged pieces to the photo access site.
mike
At 10:00 AM 7/8/2003 +0930, you wrote:
Yeah but what about the flattening
that happens to the top side when you hit
it, you will end up loosing the texture you just put on the bottom when
you
rotate it.
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From: {quot}Mike Linn{quot} <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: 08 July, 2003 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Forging blackberries?
>
> If this were me, Id take a 2x2x1 chunk of steel heat it up to an
even
> yellow and sink a hole in it with a largish oval or egg shaped
punch. Then
> using a smaller round punch, punch in the dimples. lastly forge a
piece of
> 1/4{quot} round into the block running from one end of the hole to
the outer
> edge, dress it up, radius the sharp edges, weld on a handle and
viola'....
> an open face die that will make a few hundred blackberries before
you need
> to make a new die.
>
> This is very similar to the open face dies that Allan Kress and
Clay
> Spencer are making and selling. And Im sure for a fee either one
will make
> a die for you....
>
>
> mike
>
>
>
>
> At 01:07 PM 7/7/2003 +0930, you wrote:
>
> > > Shannell Sugrue wrote:
> > > >
> > > > A customer want some blackberries like these
> > > >
http://www.homepages.ihug.com.au/~sjs/berries.jpg
> > > > in a railing, the picture is taken from page 88 of
the book {quot}the
> > > > contemorary blacksmith{quot} by Dona Meilach, Im sure
many of you will
know
> >it, i
> > > > the nota says it was made with a clam shell die. Im
looking for tips
on
> > > > making these, I can do balls with a clapper die but I
can only think
of
> >how
> > > > to make these blackcurrents in 2 halves and mabey
join them together
ie:
> >by
> > > > sinking a half blackcurrent depression into a block
of steel and
then
> > > > hitting a hot blank into that with a flat top die on
the P.hammer.
even
> >then
> > > > I think the part of the berry closest to the top of
the depression
would
> > > > have little detail because it isnt being hit into the
die, more
being
> > > > squeezed sideways into it, and thats only if the
blank is the right
> >size. I
> > > > cant see any way you could rotate a ball in a
{quot}clamshell{quot} die to get
an
> >even
> > > > effect. Anyone done these before???
> > >
> > > First, you first say blackberries, and then refer to
blackcurrants.
> > > They are two very different looking berries. WHich
is it? Black
> > > berries look like raspberries, currants are similar to
cherries only
> > > much smaller.
> > >
> > > If blackberries, how about a three piece die? The
two bottom halves
> > > swage the basic shape from the end of the berry to about
2/3 or 3/4
> > > of the way to the stem end of the berry. You then
lock those dies
> > > together, set them on their edge so that the unfinished
end faces
> > > up. The third die then swings into position and a
couple of well
> > > placed blows finishes the stem-end of the berry including
the
> > > depression where the stem attaches. You can even
leave the beginnings
> > > of the stem for later reworking. At that point the
berry itself is
> > > done and you can add leaves and stems. This is just
one way to do it.
> > > If you try it, be aware that the dies have to be
accurately build so
> > > everything aligns well, requiring the fewest number of
blows, which is
> > > in turn desireable because the heat will be transferred
away from the
> > > work rapidly. You would have to place it in the
lower dies, smack it
> > > two or three times, flip up, place the third die, two or
three whacks,
> > > and that's all folks.
> > >
> > > I can see doing currants the same way. The hardest
part for each
> > > is getting a good dimple at the stem-end, something the
third die
> > > should do nicely.
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