[TheForge] Here is a good question. Hard to believe also.

Mon Jan 13 23:09:04 2003

I kind of agree with you Bruce, and some others who would ere on the side of
safety as opposed to just doing the job even though in your heart you know
there are possibilities of calamity.

I will do the test links (he's paying) in 3/8" work hardened copper and will
fuse the ends to the sides. He will have them tested.  I will also say that
there HAS to be 1/8" or 3/16" stainless cable (the kind they use for sail
boat rigging) behind the links if I do the job. This could be painted black
or copper or whatever.

Harry

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Bruce Freeman
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 8:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [TheForge] Here is a good question. Hard to believe also.

Harry,

If I were you I wouldn't touch the job with a 10' pole.
Your links are just closed S-hooks and would not have anywhere near the
strength of normal chain.

My suggestion is to research commercial chain.  See if you can get a
closed-link chain that's fairly attractive.  Naturally you want to get chain
that is rated to hold the load.  Then maybe add some ornamentation to it to
satisfy the esthetic sense.

In addition, how is this half-ton contrivance going to be hung?  Do they
have a garret crane in their kitchen?

Another approach is to use solid round stock to mount the thing, then add
your chain as decoration.  If you're clever, you may distract the eye from
the round stock.

I keep thinking - what if it were ever to fall?  What if some child decide
to climb up and play with it or ON it?

Bruce
NJ

>>> [email protected] 01/12/03 08:35AM >>>
Shannell

I too am thinking steel but was thinking of plating. Your idea of copper
paints that even naturally patinate sound good and less expensive for the
client. Can you name one of these paints.  So far I have not used any of the
new style paints on my work.

thanks

Harry

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Shannell Sugrue
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Here is a good question. Hard to believe also.

Go steel and paint it, there are some amazing copper paints available which
even naturally patinate, indistinguishable from copper to me, I guess forged
copper looks well "forged" though so that might be harder to replicate, tell
him its cheaper and stronger and you should convince him.

----- Original Message -----
From: "H and P Foster" <[email protected]>
To: "the forge" <[email protected]>
Sent: 11 January, 2003 6:48 PM
Subject: [TheForge] Here is a good question. Hard to believe also.

>
> A potential client is interested in me making some of my decorative chain
> http://pages.infinit.net/rustydog/chain1.htm to hang his wifes new pot
rack.
> So far so good.
>
> He then says that the pot rack and cast iron pots will weigh 1000 pounds.
> I write back asking if he put one too many zeros on his figure.
> Nope......1000 pounds it is.  He also wants the chain in copper.
>
> I suggested I make a few links out of 3/8" copper round stock and he can
> have it tested for the load and that the responsibility will be his alone.
> The rack will hang from 4 points.
>
> Do you think the copper of this dimension will be strong enough, or should
I
> suggest copper plated iron links instead?
>
> Thanks for any help or ideas.
>
>
> Harry Foster
> Rusty Dog Forge
> http://pages.infinit.net/rustydog/home.htm
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>
>
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