[TheForge] Teaching blacksmithing and insurance

[Peter Fels And Phoebe Palmer]

The quote that still rings in my ears, is the lawer saying to me
"You have enough money for some law, but not enough for justice".

terry l. ridder wrote:

>hello;
>
>i really need to jump here and give a personal experience example of
>just how broken the legal system is in the usa. to the lawyers, judges,
>and politicians it is all a game.
>
>26 nov 2003, was the seven year anniversary of the work related accident
>which basically has kept me home-bound. seven years of legal nightmare.
>
>i will give you the short version and timeline.
>
>consulting company i worked for at the time of the accident, 26 nov
>1996, had workman's compensation insurance coverage from legion
>insurnace company of pennsylvania. legion insurance company of
>pennsylvania, villanova insurance company of pennsylvania, and legion
>indemnity of illinois were all owned by mutual risk management of
>bermuda. 1 apr 2002, legion insurnace of pennsylvania and villanova
>insurance of pennsylvania were placed in rehabilation by the insurance
>commissioner of the commonwealth of pennsylvania. legion indemnity of
>illinois was placed in rehabilation by the illinois department of
>insurance. suddenly instead of begin able to get a hearing, we were sent
>multiple stays of litigation, issued by a commonwealth of pennsylvania
>judge. could not do anything. could not go after the consulting company
>directly, nothing. illinois courts and illinois industrial commission
>were honoring the commonwealth of pennsylvania stays of litigation.
>
>in the middle of june 2003, sudden the illinois courts and illinois
>industrial commission decide that they were wrong in honoring the stays
>of litigation and that they would start hearing cases which involved the
>three insurance companies. less than two weeks later the commonwealth of
>pennsylvania judge decides that legion and villanova cannot be
>rehabilated and need to be liquidated. shortly thereafter the illinois
>department of insurance places legion indemnity of illinois in
>liquidation. all these liquidations now causes illinois law to kick in
>which requires a 120 stay of litigation. that 120 stay of litigation
>expired on or around 4 nov 2003. ( depends on who you ask as to what
>date you are given. ) with all three insurnace companies in liquidation
>the ultimate parent company, mutual risk management of bermuda, seeks a
>'scheme of arrangement' in bermuda. the entire case now kicks to the
>illinois guarantee fund. the consulting company is off the hook. they
>have no liabilty any longer. i can not go after them.
>
>8 dec 2003, we have a court date, in chicago. in all likelyhood the
>lawyers just hired by the illinois guarantee fund to handle the case
>will probably walk into court the request a 90 days continuance so that
>they may review the case. the judge will probably grant their request.
>yet another wasted day.
>
>i have left out many details concerning the lawyers, judges, and others
>complete unethical behaviour in the past seven years.
>
>i have over 500 pages of legal documents detailing this nightmare.
>even if we do get to have a hearing on 8 dec 2003, the judge has 120
>days to issue a ruling. the best guess is that this case will not be
>finally settled until late 2005 or middle 2006. rules, appeals, more
>rulings, more appeals, finally hits the illinois supreme court which can
>either agree to hear arguments or not.
>
>most details are still on the web. search google.
>
>instead of a fair settlement i will probably be offered .25 to 35 cents
>us on the dollar by the illinois guarantee fund. that will not even
>cover the medical bills which neither the consulting company nor legion
>insurance paid and at this point do not have to pay.
>
>the legal system is all a game one big game played by the lawyers,
>judges, and the politicans.
>
>On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Peter Fels And Phoebe Palmer wrote:
>
>peter>
>peter> It's easy to blame the lawyers, and in some cases justified, but mostly
>peter> the problem is the #@#@#@# who press frivolous lawsuits and the jurys
>peter> who support them.
>peter> The virtue of the system is it offers a way to settle conflicts short of
>peter> firearms...fewer dead people are pretty much worth the incessant
>peter> bullship...mostly.
>peter> As the system ages, it picks up barnicles and parasites, but still
>peter> generally functions. Eventually it gets cleaned up or collapses.
>peter> RE digi camera...I want one too...but every time it comes down to a new
>peter> camera or a tool...............Pete F
>peter>
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>Bill Alleman wrote:
>bill> > >
>bill> > >
>bill> > >
>bill> > > But don't it just warm yer heart t' know the lawyers aren't forgotten?
>bill> > >
>bill> > >
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>andy wrote:
>andy> >	The only ones that make out like bandits no matter how things
>andy> >	turn out are the lawyers.  Stock brokers are in a similar
>andy> >	position, though I can respect what they do a little more
>andy> >	then the ambulance chaser.
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