[REALLY OT] [TheForge] Re: this is outright false ( was Re: test post -- ignore)
Gabriel Cain
[email protected]
Tue Aug 26 17:02:00 2003
Terry, you have very good points. But as I myself was told on here a
month or so back, this is not NANOG or NANAE. Take it off-list. I do
agree with you, but this isn't the forum for it.
Gabriel
<quote who="terry l. ridder">
> hello;
>
> i am not sure what xo has to do with this since dmv.com has direct
> allocation of net blocks from arin (american registry of internet
> numbers). dmv.com has nothing to do with xo, so i am missing your point.
>
> that being said, i also have large sections of 64.0.0.0/8 blocklisted
> which includes dialtone (davie, florida).
>
> btw, XOXO-BLK-14, is only 4, in old terminology, class bs.
> 64.0.0.0/16
> 64.1.0.0/16
> 64.2.0.0/16
> 64.3.0.0/16
>
> i do not have any of the above xo net blocks blocklisted.
>
> i have sent e-mails to both meritel.com/viser.com (same organization)
> and pair.com, asking if they ever blocked dmv.com and/or qth.net for any
> reason. i am waiting for replys.
>
> concerning, lighten up, i do not think so. paul hewitt, made a totally
> false statement concerning dmv.com (qth.net upstream provider) and
> qth.net. i have asked for him to present the evidence to backup his
> statement. he has not.
>
> # DELMARVA ONLINE DMVOL (NET-64-45-128-0-1) 64.45.128.0 -
> 64.45.159.255 # DELMARVA ONLINE DMVOL-BLK-2 (NET-64-238-0-0-1)
> 64.238.0.0 - 64.238.15.255 # XO Communications XOXO-BLK-14
> (NET-64-0-0-0-1) 64.0.0.0 - 64.3.255.255 # XO Communications
> XOXO-BLK-22 (NET-64-35-0-0-1) 64.35.0.0 - 64.35.127.255 # XO
> Communications XOXO-BLK-7 (NET-64-50-0-0-1) 64.50.0.0 -
> 64.50.127.255 # XO Communications XOXO-BLK-5 (NET-64-220-0-0-1)
> 64.220.0.0 - 64.221.255.255
>
> #
> # OrgName: DELMARVA ONLINE
> #
> # NetRange: 64.45.128.0 - 64.45.159.255
> # CIDR: 64.45.128.0/19
> # NetName: DMVOL
> # NetHandle: NET-64-45-128-0-1
> # Parent: NET-64-0-0-0-0
> # NetType: Direct Allocation
> # Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
> #
>
> #
> # OrgName: DELMARVA ONLINE
> #
> # NetRange: 64.238.0.0 - 64.238.15.255
> # CIDR: 64.238.0.0/20
> # NetName: DMVOL-BLK-2
> # NetHandle: NET-64-238-0-0-1
> # Parent: NET-64-0-0-0-0
> # NetType: Direct Allocation
> # Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
> #
>
> #
> # OrgName: XO Communications
> #
> # NetRange: 64.0.0.0 - 64.3.255.255
> # CIDR: 64.0.0.0/14
> # NetName: XOXO-BLK-14
> # NetHandle: NET-64-0-0-0-1
> # Parent: NET-64-0-0-0-0
> # NetType: Direct Allocation
> #
>
> #
> # OrgName: XO Communications
> #
> # NetRange: 64.35.0.0 - 64.35.127.255
> # CIDR: 64.35.0.0/17
> # NetName: XOXO-BLK-22
> # NetHandle: NET-64-35-0-0-1
> # Parent: NET-64-0-0-0-0
> # NetType: Direct Allocation
> # Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
> #
>
> #
> # OrgName: XO Communications
> #
> # NetRange: 64.50.0.0 - 64.50.127.255
> # CIDR: 64.50.0.0/17
> # NetName: XOXO-BLK-7
> # NetHandle: NET-64-50-0-0-1
> # Parent: NET-64-0-0-0-0
> # NetType: Direct Allocation
> # Comment:
> #
>
> #
> # OrgName: XO Communications
> #
> # NetRange: 64.220.0.0 - 64.221.255.255
> # CIDR: 64.220.0.0/15
> # NetName: XOXO-BLK-5
> # NetHandle: NET-64-220-0-0-1
> # Parent: NET-64-0-0-0-0
> # NetType: Direct Allocation
> # Comment:
> #
>
> On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Mike Spencer wrote:
>
> terrylr>
> terrylr> btw, i am not asking, i am demanding that you produce the
> terrylr> evidence now.
> terrylr>
>
> mike>
> mike> Jeez, Terry,lighten up. I have the whole of NET-XOXO-BLK-14 mike>
> (64.0.0.0/8) on my personal blocklist with mailman.qth.net
> mike> whitelisted. I, too, checked some DNSBLs and didn't find the qth
> mike> server but XO has a messy track record [1] and I surmise that many
> mike> local lists besides mine block it partly or in toto.
> mike>
> mike> Hey, the is the internet. Instead of "demanding", how about you
> just mike> ask nicely?
> mike>
> mike> - Mike
> mike>
> mike> [1] No, I don't have evidence on file. Use deja-google on nanae &
> XO. mike>
> mike>
>
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