[TheForge] Newby knifemaker

Fri Aug 15 01:19:00 2003

Niacin eh?

An acceptible name for nicotinic acid. I smoke, my ears ring. I wear ear
plugs and sometimes muffs as well. 19 years on the drill rig, plugs or not
your ears suffer.

Frosty
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If it ain't forged
it ain't real.
Wrought iron is.
The FrostWorks

Meadow Lakes, AK.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin donahoe" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 5:40 PM
Subject: RE: [TheForge] Newby knifemaker

> Thanks for the point on the earplugs, I ought to get a box and keep them
> around, too hot for the muffs.
>
>  On the hearing point, I recall hearing a bit on the radio maybe 5-10
years
> ago about a study the Israeli Army did on tinitis.  Apparently they gave
> their subjects large doses of niacin (and closely monitored their livers,
I
> think) and had a significant reduction in the tinitis in the study.
Anyone
> ever hear tell of such?  Mine's better some times, worse others.  Don't
see
> any correlation with my intake of green leafy veg's.
>
> Kevin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Jerry Frost
> Sent: Thursday, 14 August, 2003 2:17 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Newby knifemaker
>
>
> Good show Kevin:
>
> In addition to his safety glasses have him get ear plugs. Getting him into
> the habit of taking reasonable precautions now is so much easier than
later
> and it will serve him well all his life.
>
> Sounds like he's about "average" for a first timer. I demo the leaf hook
> with full explanations of each step, in detail in about 12 to 15 minutes
> depending on the questions. Then the student usually spends 2 - 4 hours
> making one.
>
> Teenagers especially seem to have trouble remembering to watch the fire;
> short attention spans no doubt. My solution is to let them burn the work,
it
> only takes a couple times with lots of effort invested to get the idea. I
> don't do this right off of course, I wait till they have heard and
> (forgotten about) my admonishments through a couple projects. After losing
a
> couple hours worth of effort their listeners seem to turn up a notch.
<grin>
>
> Yes indeed, teaching someone else is a wonderful way to improve your own
> skills, I learn as much teaching as they do.
>
> Enjoy the experience.
>
> Frosty
> ------------------------
> If it ain't forged
> it ain't real.
> Wrought iron is.
> The FrostWorks
>
> Meadow Lakes, AK.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin donahoe" <[email protected]>
> To: "theforge" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:22 PM
> Subject: [TheForge] Newby knifemaker
>
>
> >
> > Paul (13years old) was dropped off yesterday afternoon by his mom at the
> > appointed time, even brought his own safety glasses, and after I
fashioned
> a
> > sweat band, was able to keep them on :)  Made him do some old fart
warmups
> > with a 3 lb hammer, curls and tricep extensions, pointing out that it
will
> > matter more in 30 years.
> >
> > Somehow I thought I could demo a technique and let him go at it a bit,
but
> > he pretty much took steady direction.  Even after burning up a piece in
> the
> > coal, I had to tell him when to check the iron every heat.  Drawing a
> point
> > was the first challenge, just made sure to let him know that when he
> missed
> > and hit the anvil to not let the hammer smack him in the face.  He
> promised
> > to practice hammer control on a 2x4 at home.  We ended up making a
letter
> > opener out of 1/2" square in about 3 hours.  Had to make him drink water
> > regularly, as he got to feeling a bit nauseous.  What a challenge to
> explain
> > things that have become reflex over time... make brain hurt!  He was
> > thrilled with the results (it ended up being 75% his effort, 25% mine),
> and
> > I stamped his name and date in the blade.
> >
> > He went home with my QuadState flyer, and his dad intrigued at the
> prospect.
> > At least I didn't scare him off :)
> >
> > Kevin Donahoe
> > Flying Pig Forge
> > Morrow, OH
> > [email protected]
> >
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