[TheForge] Cheap Autodarkening Welding Helmet.

Sun Aug 10 21:33:00 2003

Today's "facts" sometimes become tomorrows no no's. Scientific  literature
lists many examples.
 Remember the military personnel who witnessed the first atomic test
explosions, from several miles away  essentially only wearing safety
goggles.
Safe practice is constantly evolving as we gradually better understand the
finer and more complex interactions we have  with our environment  and how
they  affect us.
I'd rather be wrong than sorry. My eyes are one of the few parts of my body
that still half way work right.
Chuck

----- Original Message -----
From: "Darrell" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Cheap Autodarkening Welding Helmet.

> Some folks are "believers" and some check the facts and then believe.
> Darrell
>
> http://www.machinemaster.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck Robinson" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 11:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Cheap Autodarkening Welding Helmet.
>
>
> > Hey Darrell,
> > I believe there is a lot more than muscle fatigue involved. i.e.
cataract
> > formation and retinal damage.
> > Chuck
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Darrell" <[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 5:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Cheap Autodarkening Welding Helmet.
> >
> >
> > > You won't get flash burn from an auto darkening lens that doesn't
> darken.
> > > The material that the lens is made from will protect you even if it
> > doesn't
> > > darken. What you will get is your pupil will close from the bright
light
> > and
> > > then when it does darken you will not be able to see until the pupil
> > dilates
> > > again. Enough of that will cause muscle fatigue in the pupil.
> > > Darrell
> > >
> > > http://www.machinemaster.com
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Chuck Robinson" <[email protected]>
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 2:51 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Cheap Autodarkening Welding Helmet.
> > >
> > >
> > > > With cheap helmets with a slow switching time you can blink your
eyes
> as
> > > you
> > > > strike the arc to prevent flash burn.
> > > > Chuck
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <[email protected]>
> > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 12:14 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Cheap Autodarkening Welding Helmet.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I  don't take your comments as insulting.   I don't disagree, my
> > normal
> > > > > helmet is an american brand.  I say brand, since god knows where
> > > > > anything is really made anymore.  Too many "made in america"
> products
> > > > > seem to be more snapped together in america, by illegal labor.
I
> > > > > wouldn't suggest anyone here entertain these for daily welding or
if
> > > > > they are using high amperages.   I bought mine as a spare, since I
> > don't
> > > > > want to have a lot of money tied up in an extra helmet I hope to
not
> > > > > have to use.  Also, there was some mention a while back about
using
> an
> > > > > autodarkening rig for forge welding, where these units may be
> > > > > appropriate as well, considering that so many people use nothing
> other
> > > > > than ordinary safety glasses for forge welding now (if that).   I
> > bought
> > > > > didium glasses years ago when that seemed the best thing to do.  I
> > > > > typically wear them under a gas welding goggle( the boxy kind that
> > take
> > > > > shields of the same size as helmets).   I started this when gas
> > welding
> > > > > aluminum, and have used it for any major forge welding as well,
> since.
> > > > >
> > > > >  I debated posting on the Harbor Freight helmets in the first
place,
> > but
> > > > > decided it might be of value to some.  There was no ringing
> > endorsement
> > > > > in my post for this very reason, simply that I had previously
bought
> > the
> > > > > $69 version and after a brief tryout it seemed to work ok.   After
> an
> > > > > hour or so using the helmet, I did not have any noticable eye
> strain,
> > > > > the helmet kicked in appropriately, and the shade level
(adjustable)
> > was
> > > > > consistent.  That being said, I understand and support your
> cautionary
> > > > > statements since the ability to reason is the only thing I value
> more
> > > > > highly that the ability to see.
> > > > >
> > > > > Charles
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > A. Vida wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >[email protected] wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>I just noticed that Harbor Freight has a couple of their
> > autodarkening
> > > > > >>hemets on clearance pretty cheap:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I'm not trying to insult anyone here, but just
> > > > > >> pointing out that eyesight is, at least for me, a precious
> > > > > >> thing and if the best helmet cost me $1000, I would pay it
> > > > > >> in a heartbeat if I felt it better preserved my vision.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Some things are NOT worth saving a dollar on.  Not to me,
> > > > > >> anyway.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
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