hello; walt, check out http://www.stickler.com that is a new 'high-tech' version of what i am talking about. On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Terry L. Ridder wrote: terrylr> hello; terrylr> terrylr> i remember a simple device for splitting wood. terrylr> it was a cone that had a flange which fit the bolt terrylr> pattern for the rear wheel of cars. <major snip> terrylr> -- Terry L. Ridder ><>