At 11:09 PM 10/6/02 -0500, you wrote: >Ralph, forge welding was first uesd in 1742 b.c. >if I remember correctly. >dave m > Actually I think it was earlier..... After all Genisis in the Bible did say that Tubal-Cain was the first blacksmith... :^) Ralph "Good is the enemy of Excellent. Talent is not necessary for Excellence. Persistence is necessary for Excellence. And Persistence is a Decision."