hello; would you have any urls for educational and reference that would keep us from reinventing the wheel? ;-) On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Peter Fels and Phoebe Palmer wrote: peter> peter> What you guys are trying to reinvent is vitreous enamel...something the peter> Egyptians had down pretty well. <major snip> peter> Pete peter> -- Terry L. Ridder ><>