[TheForge] Shots fired? - YAK

Fri Nov 15 12:05:00 2002

Walt;

   If you were close like that while passing, it wouldn't take much of
a rock coming off of a truck's tread or from between a set of duals,
to break that tempered glass.  How the glass acted is not indicative
of what sort of projectile it was, I've seen those windows do some
strange things.
   My son broke one with a small, very small, pebble like stone and a
plastic eating spoon.  Watched a guy break his hand hitting one with
his fist without breaking the window.  Saw one a bullet had gone
through that acted like yours did, vehicle wasn't moving and the
window just hung there all shattered with a .44 hole in it.  And, the
direction of impact of something coming bouncing out from under the
trailer is unpredictable.
    I'm normally the paranoid type, but I'd vote on a stone or some
debris coming off of that truck's tire.
   Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean that they aren't out to get
me.

   Jeff   ><>


----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter L. Mullett" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Shots fired? - YAK


> Larry,
>
> I think your right, if it was a shot, time will tell.  As far as the
> fragment or hole, I've not found one and I don't think I will.  If
it was a
> shot, I think the 2-3 inch slot would indicate a severe angle and if
so, the
> bullet would have ricocheted.
>
> I still cannot believe it was any kind of road debris.  If it was,
the
> object would have to be coming up at a very steep angle because of
the
> distance between the trucks.  At that angle, I don't believe any
stone
> thrown from a tire could hit the window, yet alone break it.
Remember, the
> trucks were going in opposite directions - thus reducing the
potential
> impact speed.  In addition, the slot cut in the window was
horizontal
> indicating a wide, heavy object .... or something small traveling
very fast.
>
> Walt
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry and Pat Brown <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Date: Friday, November 15, 2002 5:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Shots fired? - YAK
>
>
> >Search the inside of the vehicle real well. If something came in
there will
> >still be fragments of it. It could have hit at such an angle that
the
> >object glanced off breaking the window. I would watch the
newspapers as
> >someone shooting might do it again confirming that idea. I would
guess it
> >was road debris.
> >Larry Brown
> >
> >At 10:04 PM 11/14/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >>Allright - for some of you physics buffs...
> >>
> >>I was traveling on a 2 lane paved highway in the country and just
passing
> a
> >>semi coming in the opposite direction when WHAM .... my driver's
side,
> door
> >>window was fully crazed.  At first, there was a 2-3 inch x 1/2"
slot in
> the
> >>window ... just about head height and right beside me, then the
whole
> window
> >>slowly fell apart into my truck.
> >>
> >>When it happened, I realized the truck's cab had just passed but I
was not
> >>yet beyond his duals.  I looked at my mirror and could also see
the trucks
> >>mirror and they were both ok.  Thinking maybe something came off
the truck
> >>or possibly that his wheel had blown, I turned around and caught
up with a
> >>truck.  Nothing was apparently wrong with the truck and it may be
it wa
> snot
> >>the same one I had passed since there were two cross roads between
where
> it
> >>happened and where I caught up with him.
> >>
> >>When I had the window replaced, the repair shop suggested that I
report it
> >>to the police because he thought there were some shootings in the
area.  I
> >>went ahead and did that but the deputy kind of thought I was
mistaken ...
> >>maybe he even thought I was nuts.  BTW - The deputy said there was
a
> problem
> >>a couple of years ago in that area but nothing lately and that
person was
> >>not found.
> >>
> >>I have done some thinking about this and there are two things that
concern
> >>me.  First is the slot that was cut in the window right beside my
head.  I
> >>saw nothing in my side vision and I have a wide vision area.  To
cut this
> >>slot, the object would have to match that size or be moving very
fast at
> an
> >>angle.  Second is that there was glass on my dash on the opposite
side of
> >>the truck.  That seems to mean that the trajectory of the object
was in
> the
> >>same direction I was going.
> >>
> >>My questions.
> >>
> >>What kind of force does it take to break this window?
> >>Do you think anything thrown up from the front wheels of the truck
could
> >>have enough power in the limited angle it would have?
> >>
> >>I think maybe someone behind me and facing the truck was aiming at
the
> >>truck's windshield and missed.
> >>
> >>Any comments?
> >>
> >>Walt
> >>
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