[TheForge] Re: Pointless complaining

Marthanis [email protected]
Tue Nov 5 08:57:01 2002


There is art in craftsmanship. It's all in how you look at it. Most
people don't look at buildings as a piece of art, but if you take time
and look at it you can find that it's really artwork on a much smaller
scale. Or when someone crafts a chair, or a knife, or a gate. The
"craftsman" takes a thought, image, idea from his/her head and makes it
into something tangible, physical, real. Something you can see and feel.
That to me is what art is, no matter what materials you use to produce
it. But that's my opinion.

Chad


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adam Whiteson
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 2:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Re: Pointless complaining

At 09:39 PM 11/2/2002 -0800, you wrote:

>Convincing someone to buy a turd is a delicate business that I'm not
very 
>good at.
>Is that what is called " A bad attitude?"
>                      pete


Yes its a *very* bad attitude!  It's not a turd its a "pre-eaten 
meal".   (BTW my spell checker doesn't recognize "turd" and suggests 
"Turk"  as an alternative.  is this some kind of devious ethnic slur?)

While we are on the subject:  IMO the word "Artist" is used much too
freely 
in general and among blacksmiths in particular.  Seems like anyone who
can 
put a decorative twist on a piece is now an "Artiste".   What happened
to 
the craftsmen?     There is very little art  (unless you mean "art" in
the 
antiquated sense of "craft")  there is good craftsmanship   and there is

good craftsmanship spoiled by pretensions to "art"

If you really want to find bullshit blather read the "artists 
statements"  that people post on their websites.   Apart from the usual 
waffle about "harmony and integration",  I found a gem at a woodworkers 
site where  asserts that he "tries to think like a piece of wood"   I
guess 
he was successful too!

Adam

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