[TheForge] Pointless complaining

Mon Nov 4 14:29:15 2002

Hmm, maybe we could form some teams here.  Or a mutual assistance society. =
 Post photos of your art object and solicit "interpretations". =20
Bruce
NJ

>>> [email protected] 11/04/02 11:53AM >>>
I wish somebody would teach me how to write like that...
-Kirsten
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> A lot of art is not about what is pleasing to the eye but instead is
> about expression of ones feelings and opinions. And people really seem
> to like this. You can take some junk, pile it up and glue it together,
> then right a 10 page report on how and why and sell it for a lot of
> money. I had to write a report for one of my art classes in college a
> while back and the artist I wrote it on made very simple paintings that
> didn't sell well at all. Then he started writing essays and papers to go
> with his painting explaining why painted them in this way and that.
> Sometimes he would have up to 30 pages on one painting which most just
> consisted of rambling and really had nothing to do with the painting
> itself. When he started doing this his painting started selling very
> well and is now a very popular and respected big named artist. I
> unfortunately cannot recall his name as I suck with names and it has
> been over 2 years since I did the report. But this is just an example of
> how you can make a lot of money in the art industry with just a little
> bit of bs behind you.
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> Chad
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> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Freeman
> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 8:27 AM
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> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Pointless complaining
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> Well, with all due respect to the great number of true artists (in any
> medium) out there, I have to submit that it's my impression that the
> "art world" is so full of BS-ers that they couldn't dig their way out
> with a coal-fields "steam" shovel.
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> A few years back, my mother sent me a subscription to an artsy metal
> arts (jewerly and related crafts) magazine, that shall remain nameless
> here.  A lot of the artwork portrayed in it was really excellent.  A lot
> was of excellent craftsmanship, but of questionable (by me) decorative
> value.  (Which means I thought it sucked, but maybe somebody out there
> liked it.)  Then there was the rest.
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> The extreme example of the rest was a few geometrical-shaped objects
> made of pre-painted sheet metal, and pop-riveted together.  A cylinder,
> a cube, that sort of thing.  The craftmanship was poor.  There was no
> attempt to blend in or disguise the pop rivets.  These things looked
> like rejects from appretice tinsmithing lesson.  However, there was a
> half-page of text which clarified why they were included in an otherwise
> halfway decent magazine.  The female "artist" went on and on about how
> these objects were parodies (or some such interpretation) of the
> masculine arts, blahdy, blahdy, blahdy....  Really sucked.  Women should
> have pilloried this "artist". =20
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> Anyway, it seems to me that if you want to make it with the artsy fartsy
> types, you'll have to learn the true art of artsy fartsy bullshitting!
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> Bruce
> NJ
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> >>> [email protected] 10/31/02 06:34PM >>>
> Why is it that, when calling fine art galleries to make appointments to
> show my work, if I say I am a blacksmith that does sculpture, I can't
> even get an appointment most of the time.  If, however, I say I am a
> sculptor who works in steel, I'm welcomed with open arms and told how
> hard it is to find sculptors who work in metal these days.  I don't
> really expect an answer, it just fries me that "blacksmithing" is still
> considered a craft rather than an artform, yet if I change what I call
> myself, then it's well recieved.  Just isn't right.
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> Bob Evarts
> Forging a good life from the raw material of time
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