[TheForge] Speaking of benders...

Fri Mar 15 10:02:01 2002

It depends on the ordnung of that
particular group. You will find a
smattering, living lives appropriate to
anytime from about 1500 to 2002 as far
as type of energy usage.

 You are , I believe, correct that the
idea is not to be unequally yoked with
unbelievers. The same discussion applies
to insurance, medical care, voting ,
holding public office.

 Being in the world, but not of it is a
knotty problem.

Mike Graf

Ralph Sproul wrote:
> 
>         Some folks have claimed they use water power, or generators to
> produce power to run their machines.............. it's not that they
> shouldn't use electricity, I think it is they are not to be connected to the
> rest of the world or "grid" as it is called.   This theory brings to
> question the purchase of fuel oil, but I don't know enough about their
> believes or foundations to comment on what they are allowed or not to do.
> 
> Ralph
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "D.E. (Donn) Barnes" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 8:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Speaking of benders...
> 
> > And I was at an Amish buggy auction in Indiana last week watching a
> Hosfeld
> > sell for almost $500.00. It and a 25# Little Giant were the hottest items
> in
> > the "junk" sale. Several nice anvils and a big swage block too.
> >
> > (Wonder how the Amish would power the trip hammer?)
> >
> > Donn
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Chobrda" <[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 7:25 AM
> > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Speaking of benders...
> >
> >
> > >     Loyd: I don't know how much free time you have, but if you can, try
> to
> > > haunt the equipment auctions. I was at at sheet metal shop sale
> Wednesday
> > and
> > > saw a "real" Hossfeld with a ton of dies go for $300. If you can't do
> that
> > > try some used machinery dealers.
> > >
> > > Loyd Craft wrote:
> > >
> > > > I've been debating the past several months whether to buy one of the
> > > > compact benders and a healthy selection of the dies for it, from shop
> > > > outfitters (www.shopoutfitters.com).    One of the things I don't like
> > > > about internet shopping is I can't hold the darned thing in my hand
> and
> > > > work the thing.
> > > >
> > > > Good money for a better tool never bothers me.  I hate buying tools
> > > > twice.  But the money we're talking about here is real good money and
> my
> > > > expectations would be rather high.
> > > >
> > > > The majority of my time with it would be in making tube frames for
> > > > equipment carts, dollies, racks, and the occasional go-kart.    round
> > and
> > > > square tubing.
> > > >
> > > > Need to get something soon.  I've got 6 pieces of equipment that
> really
> > > > need their own cart or dolly so I don't have to carry them around.
> > > >
> > > > The question is then, I guess...   The expensive one, or the one
> Harbor
> > > > Freight sells, then go buy a big pile of tubing with the difference.
> > > >
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