Mark, I have used the Japanese method. It is used by wetting the surface of the anvil, then dipping the hammer before striking. If I do it correctly it makes a loud pop when blowing off the scale. Wayne Goddard lifts the work off the anvil between strokes. Still practicing, Lynn Yep...that is the way that I learned at the JC Campbell class w/Don Fogg...You took that class as well yes? Take Care Mark