[TheForge] ABANA - long
Demon Buddha
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Fri Jul 5 23:59:00 2002
I think Bill has been quite clear on the point. He says he received
a package, signed for it, did not open it, and passed it on to the
president. This would appear to be a sufficient response, at least in
my eyes. Question asked, and answered straight up, which is precisely
what I would have expected from him. We can probably move on now to
whatever the next logical point of discussion regarding these broad
issues might be.
Thanks Bill.
Regards,
-Andy
Fiorini & Skiles wrote:
>
> I am trying to be straight on this matter, but some of you are taking things
> the wrong way. When a bid comes into ABANA, it goes to the total board for
> a vote. Sometimes bids come in to one member or another via US Mail, FEDEX,
> or UPS with a return receipt attached and the board member that receives
> this bid must sign for the package. This is what I did. The package is
> then given to the board for rejection or approval. This is also what I did
> by giving the package to Doug Learn. No more, no less.
> Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Demon Buddha" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 12:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] ABANA - long
>
> > Aaron, I think you may be reading more into Bill's words than is
> > warranted. In the forst staement he says he dod not SIGN FOR A BID.
> > In the second he says he signed for a PACKAGE which he sis not open.
> > This could be a simple misunderstanding or an imprecise use of language,
> > which is common enough among people. Or Bill may have had a very
> > specific meaning is saying he did not sign for a bid, as in signing off
> > ON a bid. I don't know. All I'm saying is the fact that I can read
> > his words about three different ways right off the top of my head,
> > including your way, shows that there is some imprecise communication
> > occuring here. Perhaps Bill would be willing to indulge us just a
> > little bit further by latting us know his precise meaning.
> >
> > I would warn all of us, myself included, from jumping to conclusions
> > when the wording of a passage is not absolutely precise. Yes, it takes
> > a bit of careful analysis and consideration to determine whether there
> > is more than one possible interpretation of a sentence. Given that
> > the reputations of people are at stake, it is far preferable to err on
> > the side of caution and mindful care than to cause harm to a man's good
> > name through prematurely coming to conclusions. This is just my
> > opinion.
> >
> > As I mentioned before, I would be very surprised to find that Bill was
> > playing fast and loose with the truth. It would take far more evidence
> > than what I have seen here for me to come to such an opinion.
> >
> > Best wishes to one and all.
> >
> > -Andy
> >
> > Aaron Silver wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, I AM a member, and I've been passingly interested in this. I find
> it
> > > interesting that a previous question posed to and responded by bill is
> > > directly contradicted here:
> > >
> > > Wed Jun 26 18:22:00 2002
> > > > Darrell,
> > > > I fully understand the question. I did not sign for a bid. Bids or
> a
> > > > better word proposals were presented to the total ABANA Board for a
> vote.
> > > > If you are a member of ABANA you can get a copy of the minutes of
> that
> > > > meeting and read for yourself. This is about all I have to say on
> this
> > > > issue. I am no longer on the ABANA Board and you should direct your
> > > > questions to one of the present board members regarding this issue .
> > > > Bill
> > >
> > > Wed Jul 3 14:53:00 2002
> > > > >The only thing that I will reply to was the so called bid. Yes I
> received
> > > > >the package, signed for it and passed it along to Doug Learn. I did
> not
> > > > >even open the envelope.
> > > > >Bill
> > >
> > > Now this is a direct contradiction. I'm not a conspiracy theorist so I'm
> > > going to assume that this is not part of a larger sinister plot to hide
> the
> > > truth. I will say however that this is disturbing, and if this is how
> the
> > > membership and the watching public has to drag information out (i.e.
> > > provide proof that the previous statements are lies before the truth is
> > > admitted) then I for one am not ready to dismiss any future statements
> > > against the board out of hand.
> > >
> > > I understand Bill wasn't the President of the Board when the vote was
> taken
> > > and claims to have not even opened the bid, however I must say my being
> > > able to believe his statements at face value have gone down-hill with
> this
> > > latest round of emails.
> > >
> > > Aaron Silver
> > >
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-Andy V.
Dost thou not hear the scream of the butterfly as it
fights to live on, one moment more; as it rails against
Death? Does it's roar, born of vacuous silence, not
thunder in thine ears? Dost thou not grasp the size
of the spirit within; of the greed to live on? See this.
Feel this. Become the dying butterfly and understand.