[TheForge] Good ole days ?

[lama]

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> From: "lama" <lama@huntbrothers.com>
> To: "TheForge" <TheForge@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: February 17, 2002 12:24 AM
> Subject: [TheForge] Good ole days ?
>
>
>
>  Yah thanks for posting that dave. Just an observation though, it's all a
> bunch of nonsense. I don't think even one of the diefinitions is correct.
> Just another bit of internet nonsense that keeps floating around.
>
>
> > The man  of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then
all
> > the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children-last
> > of all the babies.  By then the water was so dirty you could actually
lose
> > someone in it.  Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the
> > bath water."
>
> When the proverb "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water" or its
> parallel proverbial expression "To throw the baby out with the bath water"
> appear today in Anglo-American oral communication or in books, magazines,
> newspapers, advertisements or cartoons, hardly anybody would surmise that
> this common metaphorical phrase is actually of German origin and of
> relatively recent use in the English language. It had its first written
> occurrence in Thomas Murner's (1475-1537) versified satirical book
> Narrenbeschw�rung (1512) which contains as its eighty-first short chapter
> entitled "Das kindt mit dem bad v� schitten" (To throw the baby out with
the
> bath water) a treatise on fools who by trying to rid themselves of a bad
> thing succeed in destroying whatever good there was as well. In
seventy-six
> rhymed lines the proverbial phrase is repeated three times as a folkloric
> leitmotif, and there is also the first illustration of the expression as a
> woodcut depicting quite literally a woman who is pouring her baby out with
> the bath water.[1] Murner also cites the phrase repeatedly in later works
> and this rather frequent use might be an indication that the proverbial
> expression was already in oral currency towards the end of the fifteenth
> century in Germany.
>
> > Houses had thatched roofs-thick straw, piled high,
> > with no wood underneath.   It was the only place for animals to get
warm,
> so
> > all the dogs, cats and other small animals(mice rats, and bugs) lived in
> the
> > roof.  When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would
> > slip and fall off the roof --  Hence the saying "It's raining cats and
> > dogs."
>
> In Northern mythology the cat is supposed to have great influence on the
> weather, and English sailors still say the cat has a gale of wind in her
> tail when she is unusually frisky. Witches that rode upon the storms were
> said to assume the form of cats; and the stormy northwest wind is called
the
> cat's nose in the Harz mountains even at the present day. The dog is a
> signal of wind, like the wolf. Both animals were attendants of Odin, the
> storm-god. In old German pictures the wind is figured as the "head of a
dog
> or wolf," from which blasts issue. The cat therefore symbolizes the
> down-pouring of rain, and the dog the strong gusts of wind that accompany
a
> rainstorm; and a rain of "cats and dogs" is a heavy rain with wind.
>
> > There was nothing to  stop things from falling into the house.  This
posed
> a
> > real
> > problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could really mess
up
> > your nice clean bed.  Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over
> the
> > top afforded some protection.  That's how canopy beds came into
existence.
>
> Thats pretty funny!!
>
>
> > The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter
> > when wet, so they spread thresh on the floor to help keep their
> > footing.
> > As the winter wore on, they kept adding more thresh until when
> > you opened the door it would all start slipping outside.  A piece
> > of wood was placed in the entranceway -- Hence, a "thresh hold."
>
> There is no such thing as "thresh". It is a verb, not a noun. It means "to
> trample or stamp on".
>
>
>
> > Lead cups were used to drink ale or whiskey. The combination
> > would sometimes knock them out for a couple of days.
> > Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and
> > prepare them for burial.  They were laid out on the kitchen table
> > for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat
> > and drink and wait and see if they would wake up-
> > Hence the custom of holding a "wake."
>
> Thats pretty weak.
>
>
> > England is old and small and they started running out of places
> > to bury people. So they would dig up coffins and would take the
> > bones to a "bone-house" and reuse the grave. When reopening these
> > coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the
> inside
> > and they realized they had been burying people alive.  So they thought
> they
> > would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the
coffin
> > and up through the ground and  tie it to a bell.
> >
> > Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night  (the
"graveyard
> > shift") to listen for the bell; thus, someone could  be "saved by the
> bell"
> > or was considered a "dead ringer."
>
> The term graveyard shift doesn't date before the early 20th century.
> Dead ringer:The word "ringer" dates back to 1890 and was originally
> horse-racing slang for a horse with a proven track record that was
knowingly
> substituted for a less qualified, untested horse. "Ringer" is now used as
> slang for anything that has been tampered with or unfairly altered. The
> "dead" in "dead ringer" is simply an intensifier, meaning "absolutely,"
and
> since a "ringer" must resemble the thing it replaces, "dead ringer" has
come
> to mean something indistinguishable from another thing or person
>
> > And that's the truth...
>  YAH, RIGGGHHHHTT
>
>
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