[TheForge] Reproductions, was PLEASE! Stop the Stupid comments

Tue Apr 30 18:35:01 2002

ok lets take this one step further.  lets say you make a 18th cen.  courting
candle 1 you use mild steel , propane forge, arc weld the pan. On the second
for some reason you dig out the coal forge and wrought Iron and make it
using only the tools of the 18th cen.  when done they look  exactly the
same. Now you put them on the table  and in walks a customer.
1) do you sell them for the same price?
2) if not how do you explain the difference? (they are both repos)
3) do you think that the customer could give a rats ass?
Dan Scheid

> That is exactly what I am saying. The only person who will have any
> knowledge of the process is the smith producing the work. If traditional
> process/material is important to her/him, then use traditional
> process/material for the pure satisfaction of doing so. Otherwise what
does
> it matter? You are producing a product to sell. Your client won't
> know/care/understand traditional process/material, so unless it is a
deeply
> held philosophy, why should you?
>
> Regards,
> Donn
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Scheid" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 3:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] PLEASE! Stop the Stupid comments
>
>
> > so what you are saying is that any piece produce is a reproduction so
> > Process or material  does not matter?
> > correct?
> > Dan
> > > My answer is in the form of another question. What does it matter if
the
> > > piece is done traditionally? Regardless of method the piece will still
> be
> > a
> > > reproduction of a traditional piece. The appearance of the end product
> is
> > > more important than the path taken. If it looks traditional, that is
> what
> > is
> > > important.
> > >
> > > Donn
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dan Scheid" <[email protected]>
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 3:16 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [TheForge] PLEASE! Stop the Stupid comments
> > >
> > >
> > > > well said !
> > > > so  lets stir the pot..... DEFINITIONS.....For a piece to be done
> > > > traditionally. How far do you need to go? Does it have to be done in
> > only
> > > > "the period" materials or will cold roll or Pure Iron work? must
your
> > > split
> > > > work be done with a chisel or can you use a band saw. There is no
> right
> > or
> > > > wrong answers just personal outlooks. So what say you? what do you
> > think?
> > > > Dan Scheid
> > > > Flying horse forge
> > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~chevalvolant/flyinghorseforge.html
> > > >
> > > > > I'm a relative newbie to this list and probably shouldn't be
> speaking
> > > up,
> > > > > but what the hell. Got to get my fanny fried sooner or later.
> > > > >
> > > > > This list is supposed to be about smithing, not politics or
religion
> > or
> > > > > personal beliefs of any kind that don't deal at least indirectly
> with
> > > > > smithing. Like any Internet forum this list will have some sidebar
> > > threads
> > > > > on unrelated topics, and this should be expected and tolerated to
a
> > > point.
> > > > > However, regardless of topic, polite conversation should always be
> the
> > > > rule.
> > > > > The current thread has crossed the boundary and for that reason
the
> > > thread
> > > > > should cease. Now might be a good time to suggest that everyone
> > remember
> > > > the
> > > > > accepted rules of Netiquette and practice friendly (or at least
> > polite)
> > > > > messaging.  Here is a link that I feel some folks here would
benefit
> > > from
> > > > > reading. http://www.albion.com/netiquette/.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, I fully expect that somebody on the list will take offense to
> my
> > > > > butting in and my suggestion, so I will apologize in advance and
go
> > back
> > > > to
> > > > > the sidelines hoping that things will return to the topic I
> subscribed
> > > to
> > > > > the list to read about. I hope things get friendlier and back on
> topic
> > > so
> > > > I
> > > > > can continue to learn from the more experienced hands on the list.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards to all,
> > > > > Donn
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Rowland Smuck" <[email protected]>
> > > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 1:38 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Stupid comments
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > To Andy Vida, I am sick and tired of your ranting and raving,
that
> > has
> > > > > > nothing to do with Blacksmithing, I can remember several
incidents
> > > over
> > > > > the
> > > > > > years. I guess you want people to feel sorry for you.  Why don't
> you
> > > > keep
> > > > > > quiet about your personal problems and what you think about
other
> > > > people.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > have been very happy a couple of times when you went away, but
you
> > > > always
> > > > > > seem to keep coming back.  I for one hope you go away and don't
> come
> > > > back!
> > > > > > Rowland Smuck
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Andrew Vida" <[email protected]>
> > > > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 8:11 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Stupid comments
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Darrell wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I labeled the subject so I get to make one.
> > > > > > > > Only a Commie Liberal would call any one "Bush Nazis"
> > > > > > > > Darrell
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OK, I will set you straight on a few things.  First,
> > > > > > > I am so ultra conservative you could never keep up.
> > > > > > > Next, being a true conservative, meaning I believe in
> > > > > > > real freedom and not just the freedom to choose which
> > > > > > > cola to drink, I find Bush and his ilk to be scarier
> > > > > > > than Hitler could have ever hoped for in his wettest dreams.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If a grown man, occupying the seat of commander in chief,
> > > > > > > doesn't scare the life half out of you when he seriously
> > > > > > > puts forth the suggestion that we may use nuclear weapons in
> > > > > > > the "war on terror", then I would have to say you've not
> > > > > > > the sense of a boiled turnip.  What that psychopath and his
> > > > > > > handlers are doing should scare the pants out of us all.
> > > > > > > The mere thou ght that a person who speaks like an idiot
> > > > > > > child has his quivering finger on "the button" scares me
> > > > > > > sheet-white.  He is insane, and it takes a lot of crazy f
> > > > > > > or me to make such a statement.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Feel very free to diagree with me.  Feel very free to send
> > > > > > > love letters to the Idiot if that pleases you.  Much of
> > > > > > > the rest of the nation appears to feel the same way, but
> > > > > > > when someone flies an IRV up your rear end, don't start
> > > > > > > whining about it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As for labeling me a commie, I have to laugh.  If you only
> > > > > > > knew the recent history of my family at the hands of the
> > > > > > > communists, I suspect you would not know how to apologize.
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