[Test-Equipment] Question about series/parallel capacitors
Barry
n4buq at knology.net
Sun May 15 17:21:48 EDT 2011
> I really think the use of balancing or equalizing
> resistors is a non-issue here. These are very low leakage
> film caps, mostly equalizing resistors are used with
> seriesed electrolytics to prevent excessive voltage across
> one _when they charge up_, after that the current is fairly
> low. Film caps have such low leakage that I don't think
> charging voltage or static voltage can cause any problems at
> all.
> When putting capacitors in either series of parallel the
> errors in their values are averaged, however, that assumes a
> normal distribution of error and my not be true of a small
> sample, especially if they are all from the same
> manufacturing lot. You must really measure them to see at
> least in what direction the error is. If you have a known
> precise capacitor of the right value, no matter what its
> voltage rating, you can measure to a very high degree of
> accuracy by the substitution method where the cap becomes
> the standard. The overall accuracy depends on the precision
> of the measuring instrument, its accuracy is of no
> importance since that is established at the desired value by
> the comparison standard.
> I think in practice there is no significant difference
> between the two series-parallel arrangements. As a side
> note, it would be interesting to know what is in the
> original GR standard cap. The catalogue shows caps up to 500
> volts and some to 700 for much lower values of capacitance
> than the one in the bridge. It may be that the bridge
> standard is a specially made single stack cap or its
> possible its made up of two seriesed catalogue standard caps
> in a single case. Since the cap is bad you could open the
> case to find out what is in it. The fact that its shorted
> suggests its a single cap since its unlikely that both caps
> of a series would short (but possible).
> The accuracy of the bridge with the replacement cap can
> be established by measuring a known accurate cap. If the
> standard cap is off value the error will be the same on all
> ranges using that cap. The _precision_ of the bridge will
> not be affected.
>
>
> --
> Richard Knoppow
This along the line of what I was thinking. If I can get the 1409-X, I can ensure my home-made replacement is at least accurate.
According to Henry (the designer of the 1617A), the original cap was a mix of polyster film and mica (at least I think that's correct) the reason being that the TCs of both cancelled each other out. I plan to open the original. It would be nice if something internal besides the caps shorted and I could fix it but I doubt that's the case. I assume there aren't individual caps with leads, etc., inside so repairing it is probably not feasible but I'll know more once I open it.
The replacements I had planned to user are polyester film. While there could be some TC issues, hopefully it would be good enough for hobby work; if not, then I can rely on the 1409-X and just remember not to turn the bias up over 500V. Yes, it would probably take it, but I'd hate to ruin a 1409 finding out...
Thanks!
Barry - N4BUQ
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