[Spooks] HM01 on 8136 LSB

[shawn fahrer via Spooks]

The echoes I refer to were of an HM01 transmission on an HM01 frequency, not M08a over HM01 or vice versa. I have heard only ONE potential M08a transmission (a lengthy number stream -- not cut numbers, but Spanish numbers -- on an HM01 frequency that did NOT have any data associated with it and I could otherwise not identify). If this M08a transmission you heard was the CW (or cut numbers) version of a prior HM01 transmission, it provides more circumstantial evidence that M08a and HM01 are run by the same people (since the odds against these events being independent are virtually 100%).... Does this clear up my comment?
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On Wed, 6/25/14, 07code04stalker1776 <07code04stalker1776 at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: RE: HM01 on 8136 LSB
 To: "shawn fahrer" <ssfahrer at yahoo.com>
 Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2014, 4:26 PM
 
 Interesting.
 It was most definitely cw over top of HM01. I don't read
 CW yet. However it seemed machine sent and on the M08a
 frequency at the M08a time slot according to the latest
 edition of the N&O Newsletter. The newsletter is
 accurate for this CW station so it's just a assumption
 at this time that it was M08a so perhaps we can confirm with
 another source that this is in fact M08a (which I am very
 sure it is). I'm 99% sure I'm correct.
 It was for certain not an echo. I am sure about
 that much. I have not to my recollection ever heard an echo
 but I will keep an open ear for it. I would say that your
 theory does make since about the bi-directonal
 transmissions. Have you ever looked at the ENIGMA 2000 news
 letters and seen how they try and track down the transmitter
 locations for fun?
 
 -------- Original message --------
 From: shawn fahrer  
 Date:06/25/2014  3:51 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
 To: Spooks Liat  
 Subject: HM01 on 8136 LSB 
 
 I didn't hear the transmission you're referring to
 at 2315 UT with "M08a" broadcasting 17569 26691
 54011 50637 44144 14767 on 06/24/14. However, I should point
 out that this exact transmission was sent out by HM01 on
 06/18/14 on 5855 at 05 UT as confirmed by my clearer
 reception of 10345 @ 06 UT on that early AM of 06/19/14 in
 NYC. 
 
 I should also note that at times, I have heard an
 "echo" (or feedback) of an HM01 transmission from
 the same transmission (albeit delayed by a few seconds).
 Perhaps some HM01 transmissions are going out on TWO
 antennas with TWO sources (CD, MP3, etc.which are supposed
 to be the same program) at the same time to cover the
 Americas as much as possible (for example, one at 10 degrees
 to NE America and one at 178 degrees to Central America --
 or something like that-- as has often been the case at RHC).
 If so, this may explain both the "echo" I've
 heard as well as this apparent M08a transmission (two
 transmitters, either one program from two sources, for the
 "echo" or two programs from two sources due to a
 mix up, which does not necessarily come from
 "Pedro" to explain what you heard).... 
 
 In other words, are you sure this was an M08a transmission
 as opposed to a 'multiple' HM01 transmission (as
 imagined above) going awry???? Please clarify your remarks
 from Spooks Digest Volume 125, Issue 25....
 
 Shawn From Flushing NY
 (still trying to be the HM01 guy -- just an "American
 kid doing the best that he can" [to almost quote John
 Cougar Mellencamp])