[Spooks] "Number Stations a.k.a "Foxs" Schedules missing.

[Kevin Elliott]

What’s with all the negativity lately in the radio world? Ham radio has always been home to snarking old farts who have little patience with young newbies to the hobby (a complete disservice to the hobby, really), but SWL had always seemed very collaborative and positive from my perspective; which is why I stayed in the SWL world for so long (and only recently becoming a licensed ham).

But lately I’m seeing a ton of snobbery everywhere — IRLP mailing list, AMSAT-BB mailing list, and now here on the Spooks list.

My 2 cents (but you get what you pay for) — I’d like to see more collaborative attitudes and find a happy median.

73,
Kevin

On Jul 21, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Ernie Rice <ranger2995 at gmail.com> wrote:

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> Why would we care if it  "crashed and burned"? If they don't publish a list(skeds) for us to see what good are they?  
> I see both sided  of this BUT it seems childish. 
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>> On Jul 21, 2014, at 16:36, EI0DB <ei0db at eircom.net> wrote:
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>> Hi all, I dissent totally and am disgusted by the dog in the manger attitude shown when  the withholding of the schedules of number stations was challenged..
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>> It is a hobby, step back,relax, chill out, enjoy it, this hobby is based on cooperation and information sharing, not secrecy government spooks are too good at that!
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>> My view for what it is worth, is that  the whole thing rests on cooperation - you destroy that and ENIGMA2000 will crash and burn. Ask yourself; why should we send you our logs to colate if you claim the contents belongs to you, when that clearly is false.
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>> You do not own the date in the schedules, you and the the collators, rely on "we" the  community of "watchers" who collect the raw dataand send it in so the the collators, producers of the news letter, creators of the schedules and other items can process it.
>> Like us you put your efforts into a common pool  for a common purpose, but you do not own it..
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>> Our clear intention I believe in sending data in is so the collated data can be distributed to *_anyone needing it._*Not restricted to some tin-pot "committee" of the "chosen few"; your not running GCHQ or the NSAit's all in the public domain if you look!
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>> Carry on you will end-up with nothing to use to create the newsletter and schedules ifwe stopped sending stuff to you. So the data is NOT the property of the collators it is the collective property of the wider community of watchers who provided the raw datawith the intended to help other watchers by sharing it.  I suggest you restore the schedulesor we need a new organization that will do the job properly.
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>> long time "watcher", 73s., Dave [5000 Kgs of Napalm flames!]
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