[Spooks] Spooks Digest, Vol 121, Issue 8

Wed Feb 5 21:39:29 EST 2014

Alle Ihre Sprichwort ist ein paar Zahlen von 0 - 9 und Aufmerksamkeit
Plus-Mitteilung, jeder kann lernen, wie man diese Dinge mit ein wenig Übung
zu verstehen. Google übersetzen funktioniert sehr gut haha

On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:00 PM, <spooks-request at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

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>    1. Re: 4th question about NS (Todd Dokey)
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>    3. Re: 4th question about NS (Beaumont, Paul)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 15:53:14 -0900
> From: Todd Dokey <justcallmebuddy at gmail.com>
> To: Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations <spooks at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spooks] 4th question about NS
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> It could be anything really...
>
> But if you think about it, if you are in (for example) Germany, and
> you are a spy -lets say, an East German who has decided to work for
> the West, then listening to German numbers could possibly draw a lower
> attention to you if someone thought they heard something at some
> point.
>
> Whereas hearing English or French or Russian etc. might be a bit
> easier to hear, as it would be not usual per se.
>
> However, there are plenty of numbers recipients using CW, so whatever
> they work out, that works best for the recipient and the confusion of
> the enemy is most likely the case..
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 08:28:05 +0100
> From: Oliver Pryde <jnx404 at gmail.com>
> To: Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations <spooks at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spooks] 4th question about NS
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> di niente ;)
> Am 05.02.2014 00:25 schrieb "Gian Romani" <romanigian at gmail.com>:
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> > Danke Oliver, sehr freundlich zu beantworten.
> > Das ist genau das, was ich dachte!
> > Auf wiedersehen
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> > 2014-02-04 Oliver Pryde <jnx404 at gmail.com>:
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> > > hey gian,
> > > first of all, no one knows by whom and where the message are reicives,
> so
> > > you can't really determine this by linking a location to a used
> language.
> > > second, stations based in poland using russian numbers, stations based
> in
> > > russia german ones, so this is probably a cold war style "false flag" -
> > but
> > > we won't know the reasons for sure.
> > >
> > > best regards from vienna,
> > > oliver
> > > Am 04.02.2014 20:00 schrieb "Gian Romani" <romanigian at gmail.com>:
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> > >> Hi, this is my new one:
> > >> If really messages and transmissions must be more discreet possible,
> > >> why different languages are used? Wouldn't be better if everyone
> > >> broadcast in the same language, English for example, so as not to be
> > >> recognized? If everyone uses this tecnique it would be very difficult
> > >> to know who is sending the message and to whom it is intended. When a
> > >> station transmits for example in Russian, somehow it is going to be
> > >> identified. They do it on purpose to be recognized and distinguished
> > >> from others? Is that a "espionage propaganda" move? Other question: if
> > >> a station transmits in Russian does it means he is Russian? Or that
> > >> the recipient is of Russian language? Could it be a method of
> > >> sidetracking origin and destination of the message? If I send a
> > >> message in German from Italy to an Italian agent in UK, it's not so
> > >> obvious to think that message, being in German, is originated and sent
> > >> from Italy to an Italian agent based in UK. How does work all of this?
> > >> Is this a well-known system?
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> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 09:30:32 +0000
> From: "Beaumont, Paul" <p.beaumont at imperial.ac.uk>
> To: 'Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations' <spooks at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spooks] 4th question about NS
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> It certainly drew attention to a GCHQ Linguist who spied for Russia. In
> court one witness stated 'I knew the bloke was a spy, all those numbers
> blaring out it German.'  That happened in England.
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> -----Original Message-----
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> spooks-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Todd Dokey
> Sent: 05 February 2014 00:53
> To: Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations
> Subject: Re: [Spooks] 4th question about NS
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> It could be anything really...
>
> But if you think about it, if you are in (for example) Germany, and you
> are a spy -lets say, an East German who has decided to work for the West,
> then listening to German numbers could possibly draw a lower attention to
> you if someone thought they heard something at some point.
>
> Whereas hearing English or French or Russian etc. might be a bit easier to
> hear, as it would be not usual per se.
>
> However, there are plenty of numbers recipients using CW, so whatever they
> work out, that works best for the recipient and the confusion of the enemy
> is most likely the case..
>
> --
> Semper Reluctor
>
> "Liberty is the right to choose, freedom is the result of that choice."
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