[Spooks] HAARP

[Kevin Elliott]

Great point. It's a good thing to remember that organizations don't always
intentionally cause harm... sometimes they're just unthoughtful, overly
ambitious, or simply run without oversight *ahem*...

Kevin Elliott
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On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Frank (ee) <cisquet at dds.nl> wrote:

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> And not only untruthful, but also sometimes quite thoughtless, only
> taking into account short-term plans (or should I say 'fantasies'?. Just
> remember the CIA training Al Q'aida... Look where that has brought us...
>
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> On 2/13/2011 01:20, Kevin Elliott wrote:
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> > It doesn't necessarily mean that universities are hiding something, but
> it
> > doesn't exclude it. In the past, universities have worked with the FBI
> and
> > CIA, dedicating entire wings/buildings to their collaborative efforts,
> > working on super top secret projects, such as the bombs for WWI and WWII.
> > Let's not forget that any person, company, or organization working for
> the
> > military is bound to extreme secrecy provisions.
> >
> > It's secrecy that spawns conspiracy theories. Some justified, some crazy.
> > But secrecy also brings another gift:  the ability to take advantage of
> the
> > tax payers in, what else, secret, and sometimes in nefarious ways. The
> > reason we have the "add the word 'gate' after whatever bad thing happens
> in
> > government" is because government often takes advantage of the public in
> > exactly this way. Normal people aren't conspiracy nuts just because they
> > have learned that their government is often untruthful.
> >
> > -Kevin
> >
> > Kevin Elliott
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> >
> > On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 4:16 PM, J. Random Entity
> > <jrandomentity at gmail.com>wrote:
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> >> On 2/12/11 6:38 PM, Frank (ee) wrote:
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> >>> Why wouldn't they publish pictures, etc., Mike? This (no public
> >>> information) precisely would worry people, whereas now with their
> >>> website, pictures, etc. they make it easier on themselves to say "Look!
> >>> We ain't got nothing to hide..." Except of course that there may be
> >>> other things they may not tell. I am not necesarrily convinced of their
> >>> purely scientific and peaceful character. A facility financed by the
> >>> military must most logically have at least some military objectives.
> >> HAARP is very much straightforward about the fact that they are in part
> >> utilised for military research.  But then, so are many universities and
> >> colleges.  Does this mean that those universities and colleges are also
> >> hiding something?
> >>
> >> - J.
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